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Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:12 pm to boomjosh
Collateral is much better film. Training Day is more fun.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:23 pm to boomjosh
That's a hell of good question. I love both but I have a soft spot for Collateral if for no other reason than the soundtrack. Shadow on the Sun by Audioslave while Max and Vincent are just sitting in the cab watching the wolves cross the street is a frickin awesome scene. Plus there's this
Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:05 am to Corso
Both movies feature great villains but TC as Vincent is better to me.
Both take place in a single day.
Both villains are relentless and calculated.
Both get thwarted by the underdog.
Both do well to mix a black guy and a white guy and not have it all be about race which would be impossible to film these days.
Alonso is a good villain, but Vincent catching the jazz guys head before it hits the plate and "yo homie" are iconic. Collaterals the better action movie and maybe thats why I like it more.
Honestly this is the best comparison thread I've participated in on the board. Makes me wanna watch em both
Both take place in a single day.
Both villains are relentless and calculated.
Both get thwarted by the underdog.
Both do well to mix a black guy and a white guy and not have it all be about race which would be impossible to film these days.
Alonso is a good villain, but Vincent catching the jazz guys head before it hits the plate and "yo homie" are iconic. Collaterals the better action movie and maybe thats why I like it more.
Honestly this is the best comparison thread I've participated in on the board. Makes me wanna watch em both
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 1:13 am
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:09 am to AUFANATL
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I saw one of those "making of..." videos on Collateral and apparently Mann wrote this entire backstory of Vincent and how he became a sociopathic contract killer. It was like a book and included stuff like his second grade teacher ignoring other kids bullying him and all kinds of weird stuff. And Cruise had to learn all of it even though absolutely nothing about his character's past is in the actual movie. Mann apparently does this a lot and feels that it adds depth to the acting performance and character development.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 7:10 am
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:26 am to boomjosh
Collateral by a lot for me
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:31 am to AUFANATL
Did Vincent tell the story of killing his father in the movie, or was that a scene that got cut?
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:37 am to boomjosh
Collateral was one of the movies where I was pulling for the bad guy.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:53 am to wadewilson
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Did Vincent tell the story of killing his father in the movie, or was that a scene that got cut?
He tells Max he killed his abusive father but then laughs and says he was just joking and he died of liver disease. There was no real story to it unless that’s something that got cut out.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 7:56 am
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Friedkin is so goated. I swear I've seen every video of his like that, he's a brilliant storyteller. He could've done stand-up comedy the way he sets up punchlines and sends them home a few minutes after.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:55 am to Carson123987
Oh yeah I sometimes just put the compilation of his stories on in the background.
The Exorcist 2 one is elite as well
The Exorcist 2 one is elite as well
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:36 am to AUFANATL
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Michael Mann had the bright idea of taking a true psychopath in Tom Cruise and allowing him to be a psychopath on screen instead of forcing him to be a good guy is one of the most brilliant moves of his career.
I saw one of those "making of..." videos on Collateral and apparently Mann wrote this entire backstory of Vincent and how he became a sociopathic contract killer. It was like a book and included stuff like his second grade teacher ignoring other kids bullying him and all kinds of weird stuff. And Cruise had to learn all of it even though absolutely nothing about his character's past is in the actual movie. Mann apparently does this a lot and feels that it adds depth to the acting performance and character development.
Ok, now I want a prequel directed by Mann. Not sure who could pull off a young Vincent.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:50 am to boomjosh
training day is the better movie, but i could never watch it again.
collateral is much more rewatchable.
collateral is much more rewatchable.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:14 am to jiffyjohnson
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Both movies feature great villains but TC as Vincent is better to me.
Both take place in a single day.
Both villains are relentless and calculated.
Both get thwarted by the underdog.
Both do well to mix a black guy and a white guy and not have it all be about race which would be impossible to film these days.
Alonso is a good villain, but Vincent catching the jazz guys head before it hits the plate and "yo homie" are iconic. Collaterals the better action movie and maybe thats why I like it more.
Honestly this is the best comparison thread I've participated in on the board. Makes me wanna watch em both
All of this.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:03 am to boomjosh
Collateral
Posted on 2/10/26 at 12:46 pm to boomjosh
Is there a wrong answer here? Both are great movies.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:30 pm to Kracka
I like both equally, but only one gave me Naked Eva Mendes
Posted on 2/10/26 at 4:04 pm to boomjosh
Not even close: Training Day
Posted on 2/10/26 at 4:39 pm to boomjosh
Training Day gets docked some points for the ending. Love me some Denzel but the whole speech and “you shot me in the arse” but was way to cheesy for as good of a movie as it was up to that point.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 4:51 pm to jiffyjohnson
The underdog protagonists are also both great.
Fox as a wimpy cab driver is gold. He plays it perfectly.
Hawke as the rookie trying to figure out wtf is going on, especially that shower scene in the barrio, superb.
Fox as a wimpy cab driver is gold. He plays it perfectly.
Hawke as the rookie trying to figure out wtf is going on, especially that shower scene in the barrio, superb.
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