- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Winter Olympics
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
0
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:41 am to shel311
Yeah sort of my thoughts as well. Just draft good players and let things play out as they need to. It’s a good problem to have if you have a lot of young talent.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:41 am to Bronc
quote:
Why?
Because we aren't particularly good at it and you can upgrade from Graham and Lewis.
If you want to just say "Guard" instead of PG, that's fine. And it doesn't have to be a starter, just a rotation player.
I don't see a universe where the literal only player that Griffin adds is a rookie, and that's it.
And to do that...it has to be via trade.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:42 am to shel311
quote:
Just go BPA
If we actually get the pick and use it, yeah.
The NBA Draft is the biggest crapshoot of all crapshoots. 70% of the first round will be bums.
Just get the guy you think can be the best NBA player.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:43 am to Bronc
The only move they need to make this offseason with this roster is moving Graham and Temple. I think the roster construction is good enough as is and a minor move or two would build on it.
We need to build on continuity and that doesn't happen with a revolving door of personnel changes year after year.
We need to build on continuity and that doesn't happen with a revolving door of personnel changes year after year.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:52 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
And to do that...it has to be via trade.
Are you suggesting at the cost of the (potential) #8-10 pick?
I'm assuming so because you responded to my post initially speaking about making sure we keep the pick.
If so, hell no. Trading a top 10 pick for a vet rotational player off the bench somewhere would be criminal.
If Griff wants to tinker around the margins, and he probably should, you have Graham/Temple/Naji/Kira to do that with if you really want. But not a top ten pick. Thats crazy
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:54 am to supe12sta12z
quote:Would be nice to unload Temple and Graham for a less expensive contributor. The Pels cap total in 23-24 could explode with Zion's extension (unless CJ is moved then).
The only move they need to make this offseason with this roster is moving Graham and Temple. I think the roster construction is good enough as is and a minor move or two would build on it.
We need to build on continuity and that doesn't happen with a revolving door of personnel changes year after year.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:01 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
The Pels cap total in 23-24 WILL explode with Zion's extension (unless CJ is moved then).
pels would be at 112- 115MM without zion's 30+ and/or hayes (20?) and nance (??)
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:06 pm to Bronc
Complete hypothetical, but if Paolo drops to 4 or 5, which is very possible depending on who wins the lottery, I’d start calling and offer Jax and the Lakers pick if it stays at 8.
Think he’s pretty pro ready and like tigeratl said, that rookie will be cost controlled for years. Jax may bust out but he’s pretty immature and with his off field stuff, and his next contract will be more than I want to pay. And it’s coming up soon.
Paolo will be nice insurance if we have to trade Zion eventually or he remains injury prone.
He’s more likely to drop than the other two and I don’t see 3 big men all going in a row at the top of the draft.
Think he’s pretty pro ready and like tigeratl said, that rookie will be cost controlled for years. Jax may bust out but he’s pretty immature and with his off field stuff, and his next contract will be more than I want to pay. And it’s coming up soon.
Paolo will be nice insurance if we have to trade Zion eventually or he remains injury prone.
He’s more likely to drop than the other two and I don’t see 3 big men all going in a row at the top of the draft.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:06 pm to cgrand
It's going to get tight and the only way around it is either with a steady flow of cheap rookie scale rotation worthy players, or be good enough to justify the tax.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:19 pm to Townedrunkard
Jax and 8 wouldn’t get you that pick if he’s available. Jax might end up in jail after the season, a team isn’t going to move back that far for a guy who plays the same position and still hasn’t lived up to his potential in year 3.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:21 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
or be good enough to justify the tax.
And even that is sort of a short term only path
Even the Warriors are rumored to potentially look to trade Wiggins and potentially more because the tax is just getting too rich even for them. Looking to move up guys like Kuminga/Moody in the coming year(s) to keep costs managed a little better.
Pels are actually incredibly well positioned in the NBA world IF they can manage to draft and develop well. And right now, we are doing pretty alright with Herb/Trey, but you get a guy like Ivey/Mathurin/Sharpe, and they hit, you are talking about this franchise being set up for potentially the next decade. Not many teams can say that, so for me, trading a top 10 pick should have an almost unrealistic return expectation the other way
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:25 pm to Bronc
quote:
Are you suggesting at the cost of the (potential) #8-10 pick?
I mean yeah most likely. It’s not necessarily the case but there aren’t going to be teams lining up to take Temple and Graham unless they want to break up a larger contract into two smaller ones.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:29 pm to Fun Bunch
Then no, absolutely not.
If Griff does that I would melt as bad as when we stupidly traded back from 4 and didn't grab Garland like I was talking about at the time.
An expensive vet rotational player might raise our floor and ceiling slightly for a season or 2 over a Mathurin or Sharpe, but the cost is not sustainable and you'd be giving up a potential cost controlled 7 year starter level player you can mold in your system to do it.
No way
If Griff does that I would melt as bad as when we stupidly traded back from 4 and didn't grab Garland like I was talking about at the time.
An expensive vet rotational player might raise our floor and ceiling slightly for a season or 2 over a Mathurin or Sharpe, but the cost is not sustainable and you'd be giving up a potential cost controlled 7 year starter level player you can mold in your system to do it.
No way
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:34 pm to Bronc
My preference is a rookie.
I’m just saying I don’t see a lot of avenues for improvement beyond trade and to get something you have to give something.
I don’t see Griff just sitting back.
I’m just saying I don’t see a lot of avenues for improvement beyond trade and to get something you have to give something.
I don’t see Griff just sitting back.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:44 pm to Fun Bunch
I don't think you need any major overhaul either though.
Graham/Kira + 2nds should be able to bring back a rotational puzzle piece if you are so inclined, and if you happen to land a Mathurin/Sharpe, you've added another potential contributing rookie that has high upside.
I mean right now we have:
CJ/Jose/Graham/Kira
Herb/Graham/Naji
BI/Trey/Naji
Zion/Nance/Jax/
Jonas/Billy/Nance
You'd probably like to see us find an Eric Gordon like replacement for Graham that has the size to play with CJ/Jose without creating defensive issues, but can also run a second unit for possessions, or at least a bigger shooter.
Maybe upgrade Billy(sorry, love him, but if Jonas goes down for any amount of time it could be bad)
But neither of those is worth sacrificing a top 10 pick to get. And the draft has guys that slot in nicely to either of those needs depending where it lands.
Graham/Kira + 2nds should be able to bring back a rotational puzzle piece if you are so inclined, and if you happen to land a Mathurin/Sharpe, you've added another potential contributing rookie that has high upside.
I mean right now we have:
CJ/Jose/Graham/Kira
Herb/Graham/Naji
BI/Trey/Naji
Zion/Nance/Jax/
Jonas/Billy/Nance
You'd probably like to see us find an Eric Gordon like replacement for Graham that has the size to play with CJ/Jose without creating defensive issues, but can also run a second unit for possessions, or at least a bigger shooter.
Maybe upgrade Billy(sorry, love him, but if Jonas goes down for any amount of time it could be bad)
But neither of those is worth sacrificing a top 10 pick to get. And the draft has guys that slot in nicely to either of those needs depending where it lands.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:59 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:That wouldn't get you close at all to #4/5, especially if Paolo is still there.
Complete hypothetical, but if Paolo drops to 4 or 5, which is very possible depending on who wins the lottery, I’d start calling and offer Jax and the Lakers pick if it stays at 8.
It would take a lot more. Trey Murphy, probably multiple additional picks as well...something along those lines.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:04 pm to shel311
Just ran Tankathon 5 times. Got in the top 4, 4 times with the Lakers pick 
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:08 pm to Fun Bunch
two tries
2nd try was pels #1, lakers #3
2nd try was pels #1, lakers #3
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:13 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:You heard it here first on Pels Talk, Pels have an 80% chance of getting into the top 4.
Just ran Tankathon 5 times. Got in the top 4, 4 times with the Lakers pick
So it is written, so it shall be!!!
Page 11 of 24
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News