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re: David Griffin loves Brandon Ingram; 'several' within Pelicans loved Lakers' original offer
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:40 pm to ErikGordan
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:40 pm to ErikGordan
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Garland
Reddish
Ingram
Zion
Wagner
That team would be dead last in the league
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:40 pm to ErikGordan
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Imagine a future starting lineup of:
Garland
Reddish
Ingram
Zion
Wagner
Do I have to?
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:40 pm to Fun Bunch
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the dude from what I've read is still having trouble lifting his arm above his head.
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I don't give a shite about spin from the Lakers saying 'Its a structural issue'.
Did you read about the procedure and what occurred in the surgery? It's a 3 months recovery timeline, which started in March. If it wasn't a structural injury, then he wouldn't have had to have surgery. If it was a blood condition, surgery (other than maybe to remove the clot), wouldn't have occurred.
From what I've read concerning the surgery and reason for the blood clot, there is a 10% chance of it recurring.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:41 pm to ErikGordan
Now imagine one team attempting to develop 3 high picks at the same time.
We'd be the worst team in the league and probably stunt the development of at least 2 of the rookies, if not all 3.
We'd be the worst team in the league and probably stunt the development of at least 2 of the rookies, if not all 3.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:42 pm to teke184
WOuld be nice if we came out draft with Zion/ 1.4 Hunter and 1.7 Culver. (trade ball to bulls, maybe get back kris dunn)
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:44 pm to ErikGordan
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Garland
Reddish
Ingram
Zion
Wagner
God i hope you aren't in the Pelicans front office
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:45 pm to REG861
Look at the user name. Chances of them being a troll are extremely high
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Golden State had a core of Barnes Curry Thompson and Green. Look at them now.
I believe that is a better clone of Green
I believe that is a better clone of Green
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:47 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Now imagine one team attempting to develop 3 high picks at the same time.
Worked for OKC and Golden State.
Unless you just mean drafted the exact same year.
I am not a huge fan of this route either but it is not impossible to develop multiple core guys at once.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:50 pm to ErikGordan
Drafted in three different seasons.
Curry - 2009
Thompson - 2011
Barnes - 2012
Green - 2012
Curry - 2009
Thompson - 2011
Barnes - 2012
Green - 2012
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:52 pm to teke184
Ingram 2017
Ball 2018
Zion 2019
??
Ball 2018
Zion 2019
??
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:53 pm to teke184
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Drafted in three different seasons.
Curry - 2009
Thompson - 2011
Barnes - 2012
Green - 2012
Were they only developed in year 1?
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:54 pm to Lester Earl
Read his post. Garland, Reddish, and Zion would all be from this season.
That’s three high rookies from this year alone. Draymond, OTOH, was a high second.
That’s three high rookies from this year alone. Draymond, OTOH, was a high second.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:58 pm to CocoLoco
In February, i was in the i'm not trading AD to the Lakers no matter what bus. Now that they have the 4th pick, i think i'd rather their trade over everyone elses, even Boston, but under certain conditions.
I do like Ingram, and I would want him, and i don't mind paying him after next year. Even though Ingram would start, i think he's a good player to have to play with your 2nd unit guys where he can be the go to scorer that you know can get his own shot off.
I do not want Lonzo Ball. Besides the off the court baggage, I don't think he would be a good fit with Zion. He's only going to be effective with the ball in his hands, and i'd rather the ball be in Zion's hands. If we can get #6 from Phoenix for him, i'd do that trade in a heartbeat.
I don't see where Kuzma fits on this team unless he becomes a really good defender and a better 3 point shooter. His defense has been pretty bad in LA. Best case scenario for his role with us would be small ball 5, but he's not good enough defensively for that. That being said, i'd hope we could find a trade for him trying to get back a guy going into his second contract, like Myles Turner, or maybe to a team looking to shed some salary where we can get a future asset, like expiring Plumlee in Denver, or Dieng in Minny or Biyombo in Charlotte. Send SOlo/Kuzma out and get a big that can protect and hopefully a 2020 1st, even if it's top 10 protected.
If that were possible, where we get Ingram, #4, #6, and Myles Turner, I'd rather that over a Boston or NYK deal.
Do that and still have the ability to sign Brogdon from Milwaukee, and i'd be a very happy pelican.
Brogdon
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Turner
Draft any two of Garland/White, Culver/Hunter. I personally go Hunter at 4 and White at 6.
I'd very much like that.
You'd have three young pieces for the next 4 years in Brogdon/Turner/Ingram, as well as 2 draft picks to develop and replace Jrue's production once he's done. I think that's a good start to building around Zion.
I do like Ingram, and I would want him, and i don't mind paying him after next year. Even though Ingram would start, i think he's a good player to have to play with your 2nd unit guys where he can be the go to scorer that you know can get his own shot off.
I do not want Lonzo Ball. Besides the off the court baggage, I don't think he would be a good fit with Zion. He's only going to be effective with the ball in his hands, and i'd rather the ball be in Zion's hands. If we can get #6 from Phoenix for him, i'd do that trade in a heartbeat.
I don't see where Kuzma fits on this team unless he becomes a really good defender and a better 3 point shooter. His defense has been pretty bad in LA. Best case scenario for his role with us would be small ball 5, but he's not good enough defensively for that. That being said, i'd hope we could find a trade for him trying to get back a guy going into his second contract, like Myles Turner, or maybe to a team looking to shed some salary where we can get a future asset, like expiring Plumlee in Denver, or Dieng in Minny or Biyombo in Charlotte. Send SOlo/Kuzma out and get a big that can protect and hopefully a 2020 1st, even if it's top 10 protected.
If that were possible, where we get Ingram, #4, #6, and Myles Turner, I'd rather that over a Boston or NYK deal.
Do that and still have the ability to sign Brogdon from Milwaukee, and i'd be a very happy pelican.
Brogdon
Jrue
Ingram
Zion
Turner
Draft any two of Garland/White, Culver/Hunter. I personally go Hunter at 4 and White at 6.
I'd very much like that.
You'd have three young pieces for the next 4 years in Brogdon/Turner/Ingram, as well as 2 draft picks to develop and replace Jrue's production once he's done. I think that's a good start to building around Zion.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:58 pm to ErikGordan
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Reddish
why?
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Wagner
also, why?
quote:
needed outside shooting
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Reddish
low IQ chucker. Had two all americans getting most of the attention and was still terrible.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:00 pm to Mystery
I think it's more about developing 3 picks from the same year with all presumably getting major PT.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:01 pm to CocoLoco
Ingram sucks, he has a ton of health issues, and he's going to want to get paid a max contract. Immediately out on Griffin if he's the heart of the AD deal. Eric Gordon 2.0.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:02 pm to tigerfan88
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. Eric Gordon 2.0.
meh, i could see him excited to get away from the lakers' drama and play ball next to Zion and Jrue in a stable organization.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:03 pm to tigerfan88
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Ingram sucks, he has a ton of health issues, and he's going to want to get paid a max contract. Immediately out on Griffin if he's the heart of the AD deal. Eric Gordon 2.0.
You sound like a ranter
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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You sound like a ranter
Career 11.7 PER with potential for career ending injury who's going to demand a max contract. Sounds like a winner for sure.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 2:08 pm
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