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re: First Take top story: Time for Pelicans to trade Zion

Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129083 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:37 am to
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Pels were 1st in the west with Zion leading them, we have a losing record with BI leading us.

Im trading Ingram and getting other guys to help take some load off Zion.


The internal strife that would create would be legendary.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31591 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:38 am to
This offseason is going to be insufferable. The amount of Zion bill shite is going to be mind numbing.
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3991 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:43 am to
Any team trading would be trading for his potential. In that 15-20 game span he was absolutely dominant. Like MVP-esque dominant. Unless you can hit a home run with a Luka or other top 10 talent I don’t see a trade happening.

Zion is still young (turns 23 this off-season). He’s worth at least another year to see if they can get his training regimen and his mental game together.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6962 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:49 am to
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they can get his training regimen and his mental game together.


3 years is not enough time for you?
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3991 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:54 am to
A player with his potential? No.

Which is why another team may swing for the fences to acquire him. Landing a guy like Luka would be worth a Zion trade.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17638 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:57 am to
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The internal strife that would create would be legendary.

Ingram’s value is what it is, it’s not going any higher and he’s due a new contract soon.

You trade Zion right now you’re getting about 1/4 of what his value should be because of the injuries. You have to keep rolling with him before taking that, but to keep rolling with him you have to add more high level shooting/defense around him. Trading Ingram is the way to get that.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 9:59 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20871 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:01 am to
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When he's not playing? No

When he is playing, yes


When Zion plays, it's simply a breathtaking experience to watch. There's almost no one in the league as much fun to watch as Zion Williamson.

Every Pelicans fan wants to see Zion play, and they will support him when he plays.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14501 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:15 am to
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Top 5 player that hates to lose for this 22 year old fat slob that does not give a shite? Sounds pretty one sided, doesn't it?


I don’t see anyway he ends up staying in Dallas. They have no way to really improve that team. Kyrie was a Hail Mary and they still didn’t make the playoffs.

Zion and some pieces could be best trade they get. Zion has shown he is very good, maybe they believe they can motivate him and keep him on the court.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
41483 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:20 am to
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Im trading Ingram and getting other guys to help take some load off Zion.

Nets: Dame, Ingram
Blazers: Simmons, Val 4 1sts from Nets, 2 1sts from Pels
Pels: Bridges, Claxton, DFS


F that trade. Ingram, Val, 2 first for that, hell no.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32136 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:20 am to
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Why on earth would the nets do that trade? Some of you live in fantasy land.



I'm also adding in a frickton of picks because I am tired of it all
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17472 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:21 am to
I think he’s just a weird kid with no concept of optics.
Posted by Pelicans15
Bossier
Member since Mar 2019
938 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:26 am to
Because we all know once he leave NOLA he'll magically be healed and will play 72+ games every season the rest of his career.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17638 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:34 am to
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F that trade. Ingram, Val, 2 first for that, hell no.

Bridges is just as good as Ingram and actually plays defense.

Claxton is better than Val.

DFS is a stud on defense and gives you another long switchable defender.

Those three are absolutely worth Ingram and 2 1sts, Val is throw in because he’s no longer needed with Claxton
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19869 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:03 pm to
Why not? He's pretty much been a useless bench rider his stay here.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:05 pm to
I agree and if people think this wont happen next year, I dont know what to tell them. Sometimes you need to get rid of that dark cloud so you can start over.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33861 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:09 pm to
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This offseason is going to be insufferable. The amount of Zion bill shite is going to be mind numbing.



Yep. Why event torture yourself in entertaining it? I’m checked out of all NBA shite until we actually hit the court for the regular season.
Posted by GoodOne
Toronto, Canada
Member since Apr 2022
694 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:54 pm to
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Val is throw in because he’s no longer needed with Claxton


Why not keep JV and have him come off the bench? Love Larry, but it seems that he is now becoming injury prone. I do give Larry credit for gutting it out and playing when he's not 100%, but but his play has fallen off drastically in the last few months, likely due to his accumulated injuries.

JV is not injury prone and he is a great team mate. He has 1 more year on his contract at $14 mill. If you get Claxton, I say ride with JV and decide what to do with him in 2024.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27648 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:11 pm to
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Will the fans support him?

the ONLY way he wins over this fanbase is 1.) stay healthy and 2.) play at an MVP level...

to do #2, he has to do #1, and i have ZERO faith that he can do that...

time to move on...
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4905 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:17 pm to
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Would love to get Luka and have a top player who actually plays


Luka is not leaving Dallas for the pels
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103422 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:22 pm to
ESPN has been on board with trading Zion since before the draft.

The media hates major players being on smaller market teams. If Giannis hadn’t won a chip in Milwaukee, they would be agitating for a trade of him by now.
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