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Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:17 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:yeah 3 years later. I’m just saying let’s wait until at least February to start doing these every other day threads about other players not doing well.
Still waiting for Moses Moody to develop. shite doesn't always happen.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:20 pm to 504Voodoo
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It's been 10-15 games.
If rooks were judged on such a small sample, Dyson would be a bust.
Eh, I kinda disagree. Even early on, we could see that Dyson had the potential to be an elite defender.
And he couldn't score, but his handle was always good, and he could pass. He didn't turn the ball over.
Sometimes you can see early on that a player (like Dyson) has an elite ability, and you have to wait and hope that the rest of that player's game comes together.
That was the frustration for us with Hayes and NAW: they had elite abilities, but couldn't put everything together.
In contrast, there are guys like E.J. Liddell. Everyone loves E.J., but I never saw any part of his game that looked elite. The best that you can hope for in such cases in something like a Naji Marshall -- a guy who's not really elite at anything, but is competent enough with multiple phases of his game that he can contribute.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:27 pm to Townedrunkard
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First couple games of THIS season posters were saying we wasted a pick on Dyson and should have drafted Duren or mark Williams
Mark Williams looks like a stud for Charlotte.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:48 pm to Bdnp1
Everyone wanted Dick or Lively. Lively has been solid, but Hawkins has been the best of the 3.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:02 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Mark Williams looks like a stud for Charlotte.
I covered this exact topic after the draft. Was always a big Williams fan. Still woukd take Dyson over him.
Coulda had him if Griff didn’t make the stupid Graham trade. No way was he worth including a potential first in that desl.
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This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:38 pm to Townedrunkard
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Was always a big Williams fan. Still woukd take Dyson over him.
Its hard to say what the ceiling is for either guy. Really just depends on if Dyson develops a consistent 3pt shot.
Williams looks like a guy who will be a 10 year vet. Currently averaging 13 and 10.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:24 pm to Townedrunkard
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First couple games of THIS season posters were saying we wasted a pick on Dyson and should have drafted Duren or mark Williams…..
Hope I wasn’t in the wasted pick camp, but both Duren and Williams look pretty good and would absolutely absolutely hole on our current roster.
That said I’m happy with dyson. Pair him next to an offensive guard like Hawkins and it’s particularly good.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:48 am to ned nederlander
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First couple games of THIS season posters were saying we wasted a pick on Dyson and should have drafted Duren or mark Williams
The issue is we’ve never had the balls the trade back up/ back in to get that guy.
We’ve spent our “war chest” on slight upgrades or dumps so far besides CJ.
I’d love a draft where we take 2 possible first rd picks and decide to take a proven talent instead of a project at center.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 1:02 pm to Dantheman504
If we offered Dyson straight up for either of those guys their respective GMs would laugh and hang up the phone.
ETA: Talking about Duren or Williams. Griff would make that trade in a NY second if he could.
ETA: Talking about Duren or Williams. Griff would make that trade in a NY second if he could.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/24/23 at 2:30 pm to Solo
If you did a 2022 redraft, I think that Dyson would probably still go about #8 overall. Here's the first 9, along with some others who are making significant contributions:
1. Magic draft Paolo Banchero (Duke)
2. Thunder draft Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga)
3. Rockets draft Jabari Smith (Auburn)
4. Kings draft Keegan Murray (Iowa)
5. Pistons draft Jaden Ivey (Purdue)
6. Pacers draft Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona)
7. Blazers draft Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky)
8. Pelicans draft Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite)
9. Spurs draft Jeremy Sochan (Baylor)
12. Thunder draft Jalen Williams (Santa Clara)
13. Hornets draft Jalen Duren (Memphis) — Traded to DET in 3-team deal
15. Hornets draft Mark Williams (Duke)
17. Rockets draft Tari Eason (LSU)
19. Timberwolves draft Jake LaRavia (Wake Forest) — Traded to MEM
21. Nuggets draft Christian Braun (Kansas)
22. Grizzlies draft Walker Kessler (Auburn) — Traded to MIN
1. Magic draft Paolo Banchero (Duke)
2. Thunder draft Chet Holmgren (Gonzaga)
3. Rockets draft Jabari Smith (Auburn)
4. Kings draft Keegan Murray (Iowa)
5. Pistons draft Jaden Ivey (Purdue)
6. Pacers draft Bennedict Mathurin (Arizona)
7. Blazers draft Shaedon Sharpe (Kentucky)
8. Pelicans draft Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite)
9. Spurs draft Jeremy Sochan (Baylor)
12. Thunder draft Jalen Williams (Santa Clara)
13. Hornets draft Jalen Duren (Memphis) — Traded to DET in 3-team deal
15. Hornets draft Mark Williams (Duke)
17. Rockets draft Tari Eason (LSU)
19. Timberwolves draft Jake LaRavia (Wake Forest) — Traded to MEM
21. Nuggets draft Christian Braun (Kansas)
22. Grizzlies draft Walker Kessler (Auburn) — Traded to MIN
Posted on 11/24/23 at 3:09 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:as well as Duren. I’d take both of them over Dyson. Happy to see Dyson progress so far this year
Mark Williams looks like a stud for Charlotte.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 12:41 am to Solo
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If we offered Dyson straight up for either of those guys their respective GMs would laugh and hang up the phone.
Lots of Gms make horrible decisions on the reg. Griff included. I wouldn’t make that trade and I was high on both of the centers that draft.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 12:42 am
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:03 am to Townedrunkard
We keep playing like this, I may have to stick my dick in some gravy and keep the momentum going.
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