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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:58 am to WB504
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:58 am to WB504
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Here is a list of players that have not made a decision yet on their player option for 2018-19; Mike Muscala, Dewayne Dedmon, LeBron James, Wilson Chandler, Darrell Arthur, Kevin Durant, Thaddeus Young, DeAndre Jordan, Austin Rivers, Milos Teodosic, Enes Kanter, Kyle O'Quinn, Carmelo Anthony (ETO), Paul George, Garrett Temple, Iman Shumpert, Rudy Gay, Danny Green, Joffrey Lauvergne and Jodie Meeks. 7 out 8 players (Jamal Crawford opted-out) so far have exercised their player option for next season.
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:16 am to cgrand
We getting KD and LeBoo?
Ms. Gayle finna blow through the whole inheritance!
Ms. Gayle finna blow through the whole inheritance!
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:22 pm to touchdownjeebus
Mavs Pursuit of Cousins Could Affect Draft Plans
More rumors of Dallas interest in Boogie. That appears to be the worst case scenario for us. Writer speculates that if the Mavs trade out of the #5 spot and allow the Celts to take Bamba, then they may have a wink-wink agreement with Boogie.
More rumors of Dallas interest in Boogie. That appears to be the worst case scenario for us. Writer speculates that if the Mavs trade out of the #5 spot and allow the Celts to take Bamba, then they may have a wink-wink agreement with Boogie.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:47 pm to NOFOX
I don't think anything he mentioned points to Cousins specifically. "Pursuit of Cousins Could Affect Draft Plans" is a very click baity headline but a Cousins centric slant by the Mavs is not backed up by the article.
To me this seems like he's heard enough rumors that they want to trade the pick, meaning they don't want to rebuild, and he thinks Cousins is the "logical" preference by the Mavs because this writer is still hung up, or at least thinks the Mavs are hung up, on emojigate. I'm surprised he didn't mention Randle. Randle should be plan A for the Mavs IMO.
If Cuban doesn't want to rebuild I still have to think Cousins is not their Plan A, B and maybe not even C. For Cousins I have to think the Mavs aren't his Plan A either. He'd have to prefer us matching to saying "I didn't like your first offer so we're I'm going to Dallas rather than asking you to match."
To me this seems like he's heard enough rumors that they want to trade the pick, meaning they don't want to rebuild, and he thinks Cousins is the "logical" preference by the Mavs because this writer is still hung up, or at least thinks the Mavs are hung up, on emojigate. I'm surprised he didn't mention Randle. Randle should be plan A for the Mavs IMO.
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most free agents aren't as indecisive as DeAndre Jordan.
If Cuban doesn't want to rebuild I still have to think Cousins is not their Plan A, B and maybe not even C. For Cousins I have to think the Mavs aren't his Plan A either. He'd have to prefer us matching to saying "I didn't like your first offer so we're I'm going to Dallas rather than asking you to match."
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:24 pm to TigerinATL
He did mention Randle in passing. But you are right in that it is definite clickbait. I guess the scenario that is troublesome is if the Celts are really into Bamba and are willing to part with pick + Brown to move up to #5. That really acceerates Dallas' ability to compete.
I have expressed my feeling that a Boogie/Mavs pairing is a horrible fit and they should look at Randle/Capela, but there is a lot of chatter from Mavs writers.
Mavs trade #5 and start:
DSJ
Brown
Barnes
Dirk
Boogie
With Matthews off the bench.
I have expressed my feeling that a Boogie/Mavs pairing is a horrible fit and they should look at Randle/Capela, but there is a lot of chatter from Mavs writers.
Mavs trade #5 and start:
DSJ
Brown
Barnes
Dirk
Boogie
With Matthews off the bench.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:47 pm to NOFOX
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Sean Devveny of Sporting News reported that the Celtics would trade the No. 27 overall pick, one of the team's first-round picks in the 2019 and a young talent like forward Jaylen Brown or guard Terry Rozier to Dallas in exchange for the No. 5 overall pick.
Sean Devveny is out of his mind.
Who the hell would trade that much for the No. 5 overall pick? You're gonna give up a top 5 pick from two years ago, and two late firsts, just to make one pick this year at the 5 spot? Seems pretty stupid if you ask me.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 4:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Who the hell would trade that much for the No. 5 overall pick? You're gonna give up a top 5 pick from two years ago, and two late firsts, just to make one pick this year at the 5 spot? Seems pretty stupid if you ask me.
Yea, I don't see that happening. Supposedly they offered 4 1st's to Miami for the pick that was Justise Winslow though.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 4:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Who the hell would trade that much for the No. 5 overall pick?
BOS gets back gordon hayward and kyrie irving from injury
jaylen brown MIGHT become a star, but if you have the kind of luxurious depth the celtics have, you can trade him now for a high return.
look at their astonishing depth
irving/rozier/larkin/brown/smart
hayward/tatum/ojeleye/morris/yabulsele
horford/baynes/theis
if they want mo bamba at #5 i have no doubt they'd trade brown and a pick for him. there's not enough minutes for all their guards/wings
Posted on 6/1/18 at 5:44 pm to cgrand
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if they want mo bamba at #5 i have no doubt they'd trade brown and a pick for him. there's not enough minutes for all their guards/wings
That's not a reason to make a dumb trade.
You don't trade a guy thats in his second year and will be a sure fire starter at worst for the next 10 years for the potential of a #5 pick. That makes zero sense.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 7:16 pm to TeddyPadillac
He came off the bench at times in the ECF and Boston writers have openly speculated about his role. I’d give Ainge the benefit of he doubt if he truly thinks Bamba is worth it.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 11:02 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Sean Devveny of Sporting News reported that the Celtics would trade the No. 27 overall pick, one of the team's first-round picks in the 2019 and a young talent like forward Jaylen Brown or guard Terry Rozier to Dallas in exchange for the No. 5 overall pick.
I could see Rozier, but Jaylen Brown? Uhhhh no.
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He came off the bench at times in the ECF
Pretty sure that had to do with a minutes restriction from the injury he suffered against Philly
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:40 am to cgrand
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they want mo bamba at #5
i have a hard time believing that Boston, who has built a roster around the principle of positionless basketball and is a Finals contender right now, would trade a 21 yo 2 way wing with legit bona fides in the league for 20 yo rookie 5.
this smells like Dallas trying to set the market.
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there's not enough minutes for all their guards/wings
i dont buy that for Brown. Rozier, yes- he and Kyrie likely can't play together. Smart too given the money he wants. but there are 144 minutes 2-4. Brown, Tatum, Hayward can easily eat 100 of those. maybe they convince a guy to be the 6th man and start Morris or Baynes for token 6-8 minutes. but there are ample ways to get minutes to all those guys. flip side is maybe the 6th man bristles at his new role.
but i cant imagine too many scenarios where Boston isn't closing out games with:
Kyrie/Horford + however you want to label Brown, Hayward, Tatum
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:46 am to corndeaux
I agree. Throw in how ice cold the center market is and it seems crazy they would trade so much for a center. The only thing I can think of is Ainge sees him as a long term cheap replacement of Horford which helps manage payroll. But again that’s betting Bamba will be better than any center they could trade much less to get.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 11:07 am to TeddyPadillac
Just hypothetically, then, if it boiled down to choosing between keeping 1)keeping Boogie or 2) somehow getting George, what do you do? Sadly, given how last season played out, I think you let Boogie go in return for adding George, right?
I’m just spitballing and having fun, it it’s an interesting thought.
I’m just spitballing and having fun, it it’s an interesting thought.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 3:49 pm to VOR
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Just hypothetically, then, if it boiled down to choosing between keeping 1)keeping Boogie or 2) somehow getting George, what do you do? Sadly, given how last season played out, I think you let Boogie go in return for adding George, right?
If Boogie doesn't injure his Achilles I'd keep him. That being said give me George now. You can shut down the perimeter with him rondo and Jrue.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:52 pm to whatiknowsofar
worst case scenario is that dell is pressured into a long max for cousins.
I’m not sure how that ever become a positive unless they quickly win a ring because that teams chances would age in dog years
free agents leave teams all the time, even stars from good teams.
it happens and many times the results are liveable if not preferable
I’m not sure how that ever become a positive unless they quickly win a ring because that teams chances would age in dog years
free agents leave teams all the time, even stars from good teams.
it happens and many times the results are liveable if not preferable
Posted on 6/4/18 at 9:22 am to cgrand
It's slow and the finals are boring, so let's overanalyze social media posts"
Boogie's Manager (Andrew Rogers) tweeted "1 month... ?? ??" on May 31st which Boogie liked. His manager on June 2nd also liked a random tweet by a timberwolves fanalyst saying "The Pelicans are better off without Demarcus Cousins". Then last night he liked a tweet by a Kings anouncer suggesting that the Cavs need to get Demarcus to help Lebron if he stays in Cleveland.
So...its going to be a fun offseason. I can't wait for these Finals to be over for the real fun to begin. It is pretty sad that I now find the offseason considerably more entertaining than the Finals.
Boogie's Manager (Andrew Rogers) tweeted "1 month... ?? ??" on May 31st which Boogie liked. His manager on June 2nd also liked a random tweet by a timberwolves fanalyst saying "The Pelicans are better off without Demarcus Cousins". Then last night he liked a tweet by a Kings anouncer suggesting that the Cavs need to get Demarcus to help Lebron if he stays in Cleveland.
So...its going to be a fun offseason. I can't wait for these Finals to be over for the real fun to begin. It is pretty sad that I now find the offseason considerably more entertaining than the Finals.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 9:25 am to NOFOX
i'm glad he has option, a player of his stature should have options. if he leaves for another team regardless of reason, the real loss will be buddy hield and zach collins, not demarcus cousins.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 9:55 am to NOFOX
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It is pretty sad that I now find the offseason considerably more entertaining than the Finals.
Thanks JR
Cleveland doing a S&T for Boogie would be pretty complicated. They'd need to get under the apron and assuming LeBron doesn't take a pay cut they're about $10-$12 million over the Apron not counting Hood/Perkins/White. You'd need to bring in a 3rd team and Cleveland would have to give up whoever they drafted with the Brooklyn pick.
Cleaveland gets Boogie
Pels get Tristan Thompson/JR Smith/Justin Holiday
Chicago gets draft rights to Clevand's pick from Brooklyn, Jordan Clarkson, Ajinca
And that's not accounting for Hood. I think Cleveland can withdraw the tender make him a UFA and he just walks. If the Pels wanted him instead of JR that means JR needs to go out to someone too.
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 9:58 am
Posted on 6/4/18 at 9:59 am to TigerinATL
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Pels get Tristan Thompson/JR Smith/Justin Holiday
WTF why would we ever do this without it including LeBron
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