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re: ScoopB: All of the Brandon Ingram offers are “crap”
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:13 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:13 pm to brmark70816
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IMO, the Lakers are an injury away from the bottom 10. Davis and James had great health last season. I expect them both to miss significant time this season. Then there is all the additional dysfunction.. I wish we would have held on to that pick over ours..
I think the pick will be around the same. I almost wish the pels would've taken the Lakers pick this past draft and moved up a spot for ware.
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Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:15 pm to brmark70816
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What do you think a Spurs package would be?
Basically Keldon Johnson and a bunch of picks.
I think you would've already heard about the spurs if they were going to truly go after markanen
The jazz need to take that golden state offer if it's true.
Jazz want like 3 or 4 first and 3 or 4 swaps with kuminga or podz.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:17 pm to Pels_Yaz
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If he signs a lower extension and plays well thats possible. On his current deal and if he he has a similar/worse year- Griff will let him walk. I think someone mentioned this, August 6th is key for us to sign BI and be able to trade him at
Griff could at the very least sign and trade him for about what the kings were offering.
I almost don't mind holding him to begin the year while working on a contract around 40 mil.
If pels are balling, then sign him. If not trade him at the deadline.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:20 pm to brmark70816
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Lakers 2025 1st
Kings 2025 1st (w/ lottery protection)
Okongwu
Daniels
Bufkin
That way trumps the Warriors and Spurs offers.
No it doesn't.
Where do you come up with this bullshite.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:22 pm to Chalkywhite84
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I almost don't mind holding him to begin the year while working on a contract around 40 mil.
If pels are balling, then sign him. If not trade him at the deadline.
It doesn't work like that. The deadline for signing an extension is right before the season starts in October. Once you pass that date you can't sign him to an extension.
Not to mention if BI isn't going to sign a cheap extension in August, why would he sign one in November?
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:58 pm to Chalkywhite84
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No it doesn't.
Yet you don't say they beat it. If the Spurs or Warriors could/would do more, the deal would be done, right?
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:12 pm to TigerinATL
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It doesn't work like that. The deadline for signing an extension is right before the season starts in October. Once you pass that date you can't sign him to an extension.
Didn't realize this.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:14 pm to brmark70816
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Yet you don't say they beat it. If the Spurs or Warriors could/would do more, the deal would be done, right
If the hawks could beat it the deal would be done? Right?
We can just agree to disagree. I don't see how you think the Lakers will fall off this yr.
They are going to be going all out to add at the deadline. They have a solid team to at least be fighting for the play in
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:30 pm to Chalkywhite84
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. I don't see how you think the Lakers will fall off this yr.
How would they not?
They didn't add anything this offseason. It's basically the same team as last season, just older. They had insane good health last year. Their top 6 guys all played at least 68 games. They will not have the same injury luck this year. Bank on that.
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They are going to be going all out to add at the deadline. They have a solid team to at least be fighting for the play in
The have a top 5 payroll and one of the most shallow rosters in the league. They only have 3 contracts they could move to make any kind of a big jump. You really think Russell or Hachimura are bringing back any star players?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:04 am to Chalkywhite84
quote:Then we may not have had enough to get Murray.
I think the pick will be around the same. I almost wish the pels would've taken the Lakers pick this past draft and moved up a spot for ware.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:05 am to NOSHAU
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Then we may not have had enough to get Murray
Couldn't the pels just have given one of their own picks instead?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:06 am to brmark70816
quote:Not necessarily. This is Ainge we are talking about. He may want much more than even the best offer regardless of which team it is.
If the Spurs or Warriors could/would do more, the deal would be done, right?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:09 am to brmark70816
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The have a top 5 payroll and one of the most shallow rosters in the league. They only have 3 contracts they could move to make any kind of a big jump. You really think Russell or Hachimura are bringing back any star players?
Yes, Russell and hachimura plus a couple picks will get them a nice player at the deadline.
As far as health, LeBron is an iron man. Ad will probably miss about 15 games. I'd be shocked if their pick is in the lottery.
Guess we will see. Would you like to bet 100$ on it?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:13 am to Chalkywhite84
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Then we may not have had enough to get Murray
Couldn't the pels just have given one of their own picks instead?
No because our picks have little value and even less value after they trade us someone that makes us better.
Every team would give fewer assets if given the chance. That's not how negotiations work and they weren't giving us an option.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:18 am to Chalkywhite84
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Yes, Russell and hachimura plus a couple picks will get them a nice player at the deadline
I don't think you understand what you are asking. The Lakers are not in any condition to win a title.
They do not have 1sts in 25' or 27'. So you are asking them to trade 26', 28', and 30' for a player that will probably help them get through the 1st or 2nd round.
You really want a franchise that has already fricked up the last (5) years to now decide to trade any/ all future 1st for a mediocre team that isn't guaranteed anything?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:43 am to Chalkywhite84
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As far as health, LeBron is an iron man.
Lebron was a true iron man for the first 15 seasons of his career. Played in 74+ games in 13 of those 15.
Lebron missed games last 6 years:
2024: 11
2023: 27
2022: 26
2021: 27
2020: 4
2019: 27
The dude has played more nba minutes than anyone in the league by a very wide margin. He's 40 soon. He still plays an aggresive and athletic game. He's a freak of nature that while i'm sure aided by enhancements, has devoted an insane amount of time and money to keeping his body in tip top shape, which i applaud him for and respect him for. There's many things i don't like about Lebron, but i respect the hell of the guy for a lot of things he's done, and his work on his body and health is one of them.
Father time catches up with everybody. I respect the hell out of him for playing in the Olympics, and I hope he leads us to gold, but i think this summer olympics is going to cause issues for him during this season.
I think the expectation should be Lebron will miss 15-20 games this season at a minimum. He's avoided long term injuries his entire career.
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Ad will probably miss about 15 games.
last year was the first time ADBitch didn't miss at least 20 games in the last 6 years. He only missed 6 games, but he left 3 other games early, in which they lost all 3 games which were close.
It's extemely likely they both miss around 15-20 games. When those 15-20 happen plays a huge part. They could miss a bunch together, and they'll most likely lose 90% of those games, or they could miss where just one is missing, and win around 40% of those games.
They were 5-5 without Lebron only last year, and 1-7 without AD only. Only 1 game was where they both missed together last year, against Boston, and they won.
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I'd be shocked if their pick is in the lottery.
I'd be shocked if it's not.
They just both had an extremely healthy season, and they won 47 games and finished in 9th place.
They haven't gotten better than any of the 8 teams ahead of them. Memphis will pass them up, and so will Sacramento. If the Warriors can make a big move before the season, they'll pass them up as well. I can't stand Draymond, but they are better with him, and he missed 27 games last year, the majority due to being a dumbass and being suspended.
The Clippers are probably the only team i could see being worse this year than last.
The odds of the Lakers even being the play-in isn't good, and that again assumes that Lebron and AD both miss les than 10 games each.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:53 am to Dantheman504
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So you are asking them to trade 26', 28', and 30' for a player that will probably help them get through the 1st or 2nd round.
The Lakers can only trade their '29 and '31 firsts, and I think it's rather obvious that they aren't trading them so that they can be a 1st round exit team.
they can do swaps for the other 3 though, which probably have good value.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:02 am to TeddyPadillac
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The Lakers can only trade their '29 and '31 firsts,
Forgot you can't trade consecutively. So yeah they have (2) picks and (2) swaps along with no real tangible assets to include.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:16 am to Chalkywhite84
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Guess we will see. Would you like to bet 100$ on it?
Yea. Deal. ??
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far as health, LeBron is an iron man. Ad will probably miss about 15 games. I'd be shocked if their pick is in the lottery.
Can we go double on the amount of games too? You are saying James plays all and Davis misses 15 or less, right?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:18 am to TeddyPadillac
You're underestimating the never-ending number of teams that are willing to trade serviceable players to the Lakers to help them out of a jam...
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