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Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26544 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:29 pm to
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espn blaming Pels management

Hard to read this and come away with any other impression than the team is a bunch of meanie heads who won't let him play



I didn’t get that impression at all
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1809 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:29 pm to
We don’t know if anything reported has actually been true. I have said from the beginning that it wouldn’t surprise me one but if he was much further along than they let on when he came back. He had 2-3 months in Portland after the injection. If it wasn’t progressing, he would have had another surgery.

If he is cleared for that activity he absolutely needs to play.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7834 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:30 pm to
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get fans are impatient and after seeing that video, that was the point of Zion posting it.

But can you get the team’s position?


After seeing that video I can get that he can PROBABLY PROGRESS TO 1v1 WORK IN PRACTICE for fricks sake

Zion posted this because the team leaked to Shams that they were shutting him down this year.. Meanwhile he's not thrilled about doing bullshite shootarounds for a month for no reason

The teams position is basically "he won't be back this year, so no reason to progress him until the offseason"
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25466 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:32 pm to
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You are a good Son. Definitely in the 12.


We welcome him into the warm embrace of The Order of the Twelve Sons.

Moto Apud Deum
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19921 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:34 pm to
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Then play him 20min a night as he gets up to speed.

No reason to not play him if he's healed.

How long did it take this team to find an identity and rhythm under Green? Hell they still are.

Zion hasn’t practiced a SINGLE time in Green’s system with the team, and he’s not some multi year vet like McCollum or Snell. Just throwing him in there is not a good idea
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1809 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:40 pm to
Why would playing him be a bad idea? We aren’t going anywhere without him. Do we need to be loyal to Gary Clark? He is the best player on the team. If he is healthy, then he needs to start playing immediately. This could be a 15 game head start into next year. Plus, if they sit him for non medical “cautious” reasons again then I highly doubt the relationship will be salvageable.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7834 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Zion hasn’t practiced a SINGLE time in Green’s system with the team, and he’s not some multi year vet like McCollum or Snell. Just throwing him in there is not a good idea


OK so take our current scheme, and that play where Naji freakin Marshall does a tracy McGrady impersonation, sub Zion into his place
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128906 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:42 pm to
There’s a difference between being healthy and being in nba playoff condition.

And need I remind everyone…

Zion thought he was healthy in December and ramped all the way up to 5 on 5…

And still hasn’t played because he wasn’t healthy.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26432 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:43 pm to
But if he wants to play and we don’t play him, he’s basically gone.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128906 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:46 pm to
Cool. Let him be a baby. He will be fine when he’s playing next year.

This may be why he did it. People on this board calling him a worthless sack of fat shite 2 days ago are begging for him to play.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 9:46 pm
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9255 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:48 pm to
Yeah it’s always funny to see how easily this board is swayed. Some picture comes out tomorrow at a weird angle that makes him look fat and we’ll have 5 “shoulda drafted Ja” threads up within minutes.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26432 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:50 pm to
I’m not swayed. I don’t think he should play and risk long term injury, but at this point, frick it.

He won’t be happy unless he plays. So let his arse play and let’s see what happens. If he’s good, his value increases. If he still doesn’t want to be here, at least we can recoup some assets.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7834 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Yeah it’s always funny to see how easily this board is swayed.


Because our broke dick management has us 99.9% in the dark.. So Shams comes out and says "he's really not close" and everyone assumes he's barely progresses past 'weight bearing'

Then we find out he's launching rim rockers from the free throw line...
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19921 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Why would playing him be a bad idea? We aren’t going anywhere without him. Do we need to be loyal to Gary Clark? He is the best player on the team. If he is healthy, then he needs to start playing immediately. This could be a 15 game head start into next year. Plus, if they sit him for non medical “cautious” reasons again then I highly doubt the relationship will be salvageable.

Sorry I don’t think I expressed myself clearly. I have no issue with playing him at all.

My issue was with the notion that there’s no reason not to play him, because I think there are quite a few reasons to at least not let him play until he gets at least 1 or 2 practices in. I also think that next year is a much bigger year for the franchise anyway, and especially with Zion I’m on team better safe than sorry
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1809 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:03 pm to
My stance to play him is based on him being 100%. Obviously, we have been misled on where he was at in the rehab. As of 12 hours ago we were still being told that he was “progressing towards weight bearing.” Of course he should practice before getting on the court. Until we see otherwise, I just saw a video of him pull off a dunk that we haven’t seen since before his rookie year. Even when you are Zion, you don’t pull that dunk off unless you have been weight bearing, running, and jumping for at least 4-6 weeks.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9255 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:34 pm to
Just as a reminder for everyone on the exact wording in the Shams article:

quote:

Sources said Zion Williamson is not expected to return to play this season, but that he is making progress toward on-court work. So far, Williamson has been seen doing stationary shooting and is able to bear weight on his injured foot. New Orleans has 11 regular-season games remaining, which leaves an improbably tight window for Williamson to complete the team’s ramp-up stages ranging from one-on-zero to five-on-five scrimmaging. Williamson returned to New Orleans two weeks ago after rehabbing his fractured foot injury in Portland, and the 21-year-old has been cleared to gradually progress in basketball activities. He has been attending Pelicans home games and has appeared to be in positive spirits around teammates and coaches. Williamson underwent surgery to repair his broken foot last summer and had several return targets delayed this season.


Nowhere does anyone say he “isn’t close”. It’s mentioned that progress is being made but with recognition that with 2.5 weeks left in the season it’s going to be difficult for him to progress through the practice ramp up to get back on the court. It’s awesome that he can dunk in an empty gym, but he needs to get through 5-on-5 before he’s ready to come back into what is going to be a meat grinder end to the season.

As it’s been said, he thought he was a okay in December and then had yet another set back. I wouldn’t take his word on it.
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:45 pm to
LOL.

You can throw Zion into any team in the NBA. The dude averaged 27 on 60% playing with Bledsoe and Adams.
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2380 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

Why would playing him be a bad idea? We aren’t going anywhere without him. Do we need to be loyal to Gary Clark? He is the best player on the team. If he is healthy, then he needs to start playing immediately. This could be a 15 game head start into next year. Plus, if they sit him for non medical “cautious” reasons again then I highly doubt the relationship will be salvageable.


I don’t have a strong opinion on whether or not to play Zion, but Brandon Ingram is our best player (right now).
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:46 pm to
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I don’t have a strong opinion on whether or not to play Zion, but Brandon Ingram is our best player (right now).
Well Zion hasn't played all season, so that's not a terribly bold take.

Healthy Zion is miles better than BI though.
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:47 pm to
I love BI, but when Zion plays he's generational.
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