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re: Twitter blowing up with Beal and Ingram rumors
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:35 pm to bayouboy318
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:35 pm to bayouboy318
Lonzo is a perfect running late with Zion in transition, but an awful fit in the half court.
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:37 pm to kadillak
he’s too poor of a shooter to pair with Jrue/Zion
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:39 pm to bayouboy318
In a 3 player draft the fall off from 4-9 is minimal but the perceived value of each pick is still incredibly high. At 9 we could take a Coby White/Sekou Dombouya to be a second or third guy off the bench.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:41 pm to Alan Garner
Explain to me how you could have a winning team with your #1 PG that shoots 40% from the line. I love his game other than free throws, but that is a disastrous stat. I don't know how you could make that work in post season.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:48 pm to bayouboy318
Kcp and rondo are free agents.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:49 pm to Pendulum
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Explain to me how you could have a winning team with your #1 PG that shoots 40% from the line. I love his game other than free throws, but that is a disastrous stat. I don't know how you could make that work in post season.
I'm not sure how many times this has to be re-hashed. That 41% is on 48 free throws. It's a small sample size, and probably skewed due to variance. Is he a good free throw shooter? No. Is he really a 41% free throw shooter? Probably not. He shot 67% while in college, his true average is probably somewhere between those two numbers (again, not a good free throw shooter, but also not as bad as everyone keeps saying).
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:50 pm to lsu31always
My only concern with Beal is it probably slides Jrue back to PG.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:51 pm to Epic Cajun
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I'm not sure how many times this has to be re-hashed. That 41% is on 48 free throws. It's a small sample size, and probably skewed due to variance. Is he a good free throw shooter? No. Is he really a 41% free throw shooter? Probably not. He shot 67% while in college, his true average is probably somewhere between those two numbers (again, not a good free throw shooter, but also not as bad as everyone keeps saying).
The concern should be that he only went to FT line 48 times. That’s like 3 games worth of FT attempts for Harden.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:55 pm to novowels
Don’t get caught up on positions. They’d both be primary ball handlers
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:03 pm to Epic Cajun
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onzo is one of, if not the best transition passer in the NBA.
Wait---where and when would anyone have seen this skill set?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:03 pm to Epic Cajun
He’s only at 43% for his whole career in the NBA. Is that a complete turnoff? Not really, but it is something we need to keep in mind.
The league is shooting more threes and it become really hard to keep up if you can’t shoot them effectively or if you can’t get to the line and hit your shots.
The league is shooting more threes and it become really hard to keep up if you can’t shoot them effectively or if you can’t get to the line and hit your shots.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:04 pm to CP3forMVP
If Beal is involved in a 3 team trade it just makes way more sense to me for Boston to be the other team.
Wizards get Brown, multiple 1st round picks, and salary relief (This seems to make more sense to me than them taking a combination of lonzo/kuzma/4 overall)
Pels get Beal, Tatum, and picks
Celtics get AD keep smart and Williams
Wizards get Brown, multiple 1st round picks, and salary relief (This seems to make more sense to me than them taking a combination of lonzo/kuzma/4 overall)
Pels get Beal, Tatum, and picks
Celtics get AD keep smart and Williams
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:04 pm to Epic Cajun
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I'm not sure how many times this has to be re-hashed. That 41% is on 48 free throws
I do'nt care how many free throws you take, 10, 40, 100, 400. To only make 41% of them is pathetic for a professional basketball player that plays the guard position.
I could do better than that left handed, with one steel toe boot on and wearing a tight leather jacket to restrict my arm movement, with the game on the line. It's pathetic.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:08 pm to TeddyPadillac
Highly doubtful Ball isn't the player getting moved to a third team. Between shooting and the Pelicans being in a situation where they're standing up the franchise essentially, they won't want anything to do with Dad.
Sucks for Lonzo, but it is what it is.
Sucks for Lonzo, but it is what it is.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:11 pm to xCptNemo
If the Lakers get Beal and pick # 9 for Ingram and pick #4 they may decide to keep him.
The Lakers could move Ball to Chicago for pick #7 as it has been discussed an open up enough space to still sign a max free agent.
Beal would be the best in his prime shooter Lebron has played with and if they can somehow convince Kawhi, KD, or Thompson to sign they would be major title threats.
The Lakers could move Ball to Chicago for pick #7 as it has been discussed an open up enough space to still sign a max free agent.
Beal would be the best in his prime shooter Lebron has played with and if they can somehow convince Kawhi, KD, or Thompson to sign they would be major title threats.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:13 pm to VA LSU fan
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If the Lakers get Beal and pick # 9 for Ingram and pick #4 they may decide to keep him.
The Lakers could move Ball to Chicago for pick #7 as it has been discussed an open up enough space to still sign a max free agent.
Beal would be the best in his prime shooter Lebron has played with and if they can somehow convince Kawhi, KD, or Thompson to sign they would be major title threats.
Neat.
Go ahead and do that then.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:13 pm to kadillak
Dan Patrick: Does anybody want Lonzo Ball?
Shaquille O’Neal: I don’t know
DP: I can’t have a point guard who shoots 41 percent from the line.
SO: What line?
DP: The free throw line
SO: Damn, he’s worse than me. Geez. Seriously?
DP: We found someone who shoots worse than you.
Shaquille O’Neal: I don’t know
DP: I can’t have a point guard who shoots 41 percent from the line.
SO: What line?
DP: The free throw line
SO: Damn, he’s worse than me. Geez. Seriously?
DP: We found someone who shoots worse than you.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:13 pm to xCptNemo
quote:His whole free throw career in the NBA is 119 shots, over a span of 2 seasons. He shot 98 free throws in college at 67%.
He’s only at 43% for his whole career in the NBA.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:13 pm to BallHawk
Why do people think that Holiday works in a backcourt with everybody? He didn't fit with Gordan or Evans very well. But he has been pretty good with Rondo and Payton, two pure passing PGs. So why shift Holiday, who is a borderline all star SG and premier wing defender, back to PG?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:14 pm to Epic Cajun
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I'm not sure how many times this has to be re-hashed. That 41% is on 48 free throws. It's a small sample size, and probably skewed due to variance. Is he a good free throw shooter? No. Is he really a 41% free throw shooter? Probably not. He shot 67% while in college, his true average is probably somewhere between those two numbers (again, not a good free throw shooter, but also not as bad as everyone keeps saying).
That simply gets to the additional problem of Jrue, Ball, and Zion, only Zion will be able to consistently get to the line.
Unless you live in tunnel vision, I just can't for the life of me understand some people's fascination with putting Ball around Jrue and Zion? It is such a limiting core. Throw in Ingram and I'm at a total loss.
You have to have spacing in the modern NBA, and when three(or four) of your core players lack it, you limit yourself in transition, you limit yourself in half court, and you limit yourself in the roster, rotation, and construction of your team.
You will essentially need to find 37%+ shooters at SF and Center to be able to really make the team anything more than first-round fodder at best. Needing every one of your rotational players to be exceptional shooters.
I feel like people point out one or two things that are good in isolation and forget that basketball is a synergistic sport that requires more than that.
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