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Zion = Ben Simmons 2.0

Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:42 pm
I mean what else can you say at this point? It’s really similar, he’s not hurt, nothing wrong with him, he just doesn’t wanna play cause he’s not feeling it. Basically the exact same thing Ben Simmons does.

I know Zion is much better but you can’t have your max contract star player sit out for crap reasons like this.

We need to trade him, no way a team with Zion as their best player will win a title or be a yearly contender. Your best player has to have the highest expectations and has the most pressure on them. Clearly Zion, just like Ben Simmons, can’t handle the pressure that comes with being an all star.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17630 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:45 pm to
You can’t trade him now because you’re nit going to get even 50% back of what he’s worth.

Zion is worth what Utah got for Mitchell AND Gobert, but tight now you would be extremely lucky to find someone that would give you a deal like Orlando got for Vucevic.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:47 pm to
Lol Im pissed at Zion but this is way extreme. We wouldn’t even be in playoffs without Zion. Simmons cant even get in the rotation. Zion’s a fattie but when he us on court he dominates. Simmons sucks even when he plays.
Posted by PrayingMantis
Member since Jul 2013
1311 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:48 pm to
We are sticking with Zion and he is sticking with us. If that changes sell the team
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:52 pm to
Sell the team instead of trading Zion?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:52 pm to
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Lol Im pissed at Zion but this is way extreme. We wouldn’t even be in playoffs without Zion. Simmons cant even get in the rotation. Zion’s a fattie but when he us on court he dominates. Simmons sucks even when he plays.

He was never as good as Zion, but he was a legit All NBA player at one time.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:54 pm to
Until Doc Rivers took his manhood lol
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16967 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 3:59 pm to
A.D. Jr.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
14376 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:02 pm to
Didn t he win defensive player of the year? He was also first team all defensive teams a few years.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30052 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:12 pm to
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but tight now you would be extremely lucky to find someone that would give you a deal like Orlando got for Vucevic.


So you think we'd be lucky to get an offer of say:


Corey Kispert
#7 pick this year
future Washington 1st

or

Kuminga
lets assume we do'nt want anyone else on their team but tell GSW to go get a top 10 pick, which i'm sure they could do.
and then a future GSW 1st



That's what you think Zion is worth right now?

I know he's not at his peak value right now, obviously, but we'd still get a good starter or two and several 1st round picks for him, and when i say good starter i mean Tyrese Maxey, not Tobias Harris.



Posted by GeauxATX
Member since Aug 2016
487 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:12 pm to
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Clearly Zion, just like Ben Simmons, can’t handle the pressure that comes with being an all star.


He's still only 22 years old. But, yes... it's been a disappointing start to his career.

I give him one more off-season to really invest before cutting ties. He's seen his and the team's potential when healthy. The issue now is that I doubt we get anything of value back in a trade.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20792 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:37 pm to
No Play, NO PAY.
Anybody else not mentally feeling like getting up every morning at 5 am and going to work?
Can you feel it?
The motherf-cking playoffs have started and this 22 year old guy is acting like a total weak arse pussy after missing 3 months for a 30-45 day injury.
This bum makes AD look like the Man of Steel ...
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 4:47 pm to
Here’s my response to that. If you acted that way, do you think your boss would tolerate it? Of course not. Question is why does Zion’s boss tolerate it and if he doesn’t whats going on with thus franchise. When there is dysfunction blame should lie with Griffin as well as Gayle.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20792 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:08 pm to
Exactly - WTF is up with these guys?
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 4/11/23 at 5:08 pm to
Zion is a clown.
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
3595 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:25 am to
No he is not. In your mind that’s what you expect him to be worth….but he is worth a mid tier all star at this point. Maybe we can get lucky and get a player for player trade with Trae Young.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
26284 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:43 am to
It won't be long until the Pels and/or Zion announce that he's stepping away from basketball to focus on some mental health issues.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36590 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 7:46 am to
What a treat for New Orleans to have Zion and MT at the same time. Maybe their periods will align and they can go thru it together
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30052 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:35 am to
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Simmons sucks even when he plays.


maybe now, but you can't say that about him in his first 5 years. and what if that is what happens to Zion? Don't act like Simmons was unplayable before all of this.

He made 3 all star teams in 4 years. How many all star teams has Zion made in 4 years? You know how he was able to make 3 all star teams? b/c he only missed 34 games in a 4 year span (after not playing at all his 1st year). Zion has missed 204 games in his 4 years.

Doc, Philly, Embiid, they broke Simmons. I don't know what the hell is wrong with him, but he'll snap out of it eventually. Philly did the same thing to Fultz, and it took him some time to get back to being a good basketball player.
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