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re: Saints and Eagles trade draft picks

Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128833 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:23 pm to
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Marcus Maye is better than Marcus Williams.


I like Maye and think that was good value, but I definitely don't see this as the case especially in light of the achilles tear.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115970 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:23 pm to
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it is 100% inferred. You're taking out the value of moving up two spots in the draft and instead having the Saints move back a spot and claiming that value is "immaterial"


And yet you are 100 percent the only person here that has inferred it that way

Why do you keep saying there’s an order to this? That isn’t how trades work saints gave up those picks for the eagles picks. They didn’t draw out a narrative structure for the logic of the picks

I would suggest getting in a nights rest and revisiting this thread later, I feel like there’s just a massive roadblock for you right now because you think this is some attack on you or the saints, when it’s truly not.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23577 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:24 pm to
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I definitely don't see this as the case especially in light of the achilles tear.




That is a fair point. It was a good signing for the price and he has the ability to be better than Williams. Is that fair also?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128833 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:24 pm to
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They always go bargain shopping in FA and go all in on the draft.


Ehhhh you say that but they have made some fairly big FA signings in the past, and they try to fill every hole to some degree in FA. They haven't done that this year.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79769 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
Draft good players with these picks and nobody cares about the price.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6383 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
Hopefully Drake London falls to 16. London and Trevor Penning would be a great first round haul.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128833 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
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Why do you keep saying there’s an order to this?


You are 100% doing the same thing.
quote:

yet you are 100 percent the only person here that has inferred it that way


Maybe not everyone reads and interprets words as carefully
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
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You're looking at the specific details, breaking up the trade into multiple moves instead of solely looking at what we added vs what we gave up since it's just 1 trade in totality


Each individual piece has its own specific value.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128833 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

I would suggest getting in a nights rest and revisiting this thread later, I feel like there’s just a massive roadblock for you right now because you think this is some attack on you or the saints, when it’s truly not.




I would suggest doing the same, because you are being equally blind to what I am saying.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11948 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Ehhhh you say that but they have made some fairly big FA signings in the past, and they try to fill every hole to some degree in FA. They haven't done that this year.


I don't think we have made a high dollar FA signing since Jairus Byrd. I am not certain of this so please correct me if I'm wrong.

The typical saints FA signing is a guy like Demario Davis who we signed on the cheap or Malcom Jenkins who we signed late in his career. We typically don't go after the big name guys.
Posted by blizzle
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2009
1053 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:27 pm to
We almost have enough first round picks to re-draft Marcus Davenport
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128833 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:28 pm to
I personally cannot remember having two glaring holes on the roster and having neither addressed to some positive degree in FA.

The Saints having some serious holes at LT and WR is highly unusual.

FA isn't over yet though.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:31 pm to
My last point here. If I'm judging this move for the Saints I look at it as:

16 & 19 for the 18/1st/2nd/3rd

or

16 for 1st/2nd/3rd



I'm going to arrive at the exact same conclusion either way. The reason is because the difference between 18 and 19 are not enough to move the needle in either direction.
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:33 pm to
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or send one or both for DK and fully unleash Lasik Jameis

Metcalf has 0 chance of happening. Saints are not going to trade a 1st for a WR getting ready for top money.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

We almost have enough first round picks to re-draft Marcus Davenport

Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46038 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

We almost have enough first round picks to re-draft Marcus Davenport
Nice one!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
75256 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:40 pm to
Bunch we could have gotten both no doubt but paid a ridiculous price. The FA market was thin and over priced this year.

But your right it would not have happened under CSP.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Maybe they anticipate getting compensatory picks or trading Sean Payton and would rather get new toys now?

Someone else said the 3rd doesn't count b/c it's a compensatory pick...this doesn't make sense. These picks matter and have a lot of value. We should anticipate getting more picks to make more picks. The best way to increase chances of making a good selection are to acquire more picks in the top 3 rounds.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471308 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:43 pm to
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We are probably targeting a QB in the top 10.

My melt would be the worst ever seen on this board.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32119 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:44 pm to
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We almost have enough first round picks to re-draft Marcus Davenport



His name is payton turner

Get ready for andrus pest
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