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re: Saints only $6M under the cap
Posted on 2/2/26 at 10:12 pm to SaintTigerPel
Posted on 2/2/26 at 10:12 pm to SaintTigerPel
Yeah, they have a couple of years to get that done. People act like Streif, bush, and Colton were hall of famers. Streif wasn’t even that great of a tackle. Bush wasn’t ever a pro bowler here. They have a couple years to draft well, at that point they’ll have money and a bunch of it to spend. And kicking the can down the road to sign guys like Carr and Byrd and other big free agents like Bunkley/Grubbs when we are cash strapped is stupid. They need to become a contender before they should sign players like that.
This post was edited on 2/2/26 at 10:13 pm
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 10:17 pm to Proximo
You do realize we signed Carr to a 150 million dollar contract when we had no money correct? This set this team back for years. And pushing that can down the road for Ram and Latt and Thomas is a good enough reason to not do that again.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:06 am to yaboidarrell
quote:
As of yesterday, overthecap.com was reporting the Saints were $13.5M in the red going into the offseason. Suddenly, that number is $6M. What freed up the extra $7.5M?
This doesn't make sense at all.
quote:
It was $13.5 under the cap (-13.5). Now it’s -$6M in cap space. It looks like the leftover cap space from last year got rolled into this year, hence us gaining an extra $7.5M.
This makes less sense.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:26 am to Sunnyvale
Maybe.
Blatantly awful officiating still probably would've curbed that.
Blatantly awful officiating still probably would've curbed that.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:59 am to moneyg
I think this is the rollover slowly being applied? We were around $20 mil over with iirc $18ish mil in rollover available. The $20 mil dropped to $13 mil over and now $6 mil over. I don't see any adjustments to existing contracts that can account for the difference otherwise.
Also keep in mind that the expected rookie salaries are also counting on the cap for otc, but aren't actually counting against our cap yet, so it looks like we may be right around 0 with the upcoming rookies taken out.
Also keep in mind that the expected rookie salaries are also counting on the cap for otc, but aren't actually counting against our cap yet, so it looks like we may be right around 0 with the upcoming rookies taken out.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:16 am to bonethug0180
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so it looks like we may be right around 0 with the upcoming rookies taken out.
If this is the case then we can restructure Cam/ DD/ AK and save $10-$15mil. We can restructure Olave for $5-$10mil. We can cut Taysom for $6mil. That gives you $25-$30mil.
Post June 1st Trades for:
Ruiz- 9.5
Sheppherd- 4
Werner- 6.25
Yiadom- 2.8
Godchaux- 6.5
$30mil
Puts you around $55-60mil without needing to restructure our biggest contracts in JJ/ McCoy/ Granderson/ C Young or putting us in future hell.
From my perspective, that would be enough for:
LG David Edwards $20
RG: Ed Ingram $13
TE: Goedert $7
+
1 of:
CB: Alontae Taylor
LB: Nakobe Dean
Or (1) OG and (2) defensive players.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 10:18 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:20 am to Dantheman504
It would be extensions rather than restructures for Jordan, Davis, and Olave, but there is also Young who can save a ton on a simple restructure ($11 mil) as well as others.
Yiadom I think is much more of a candidate for a straight out cut even before June 1st, and iirc he may be the only player or 1 of 2 players that saves money prior to June 1st.
Edit:
Taysom is on a void like Cam, Demario, and Foster, so the only way he saves cap this year is with an extension and I see that as very unlikely given his age and injury history (being injured in the last game to boot).
Edit2:
Also keeping in mind that just because a player gets a certain per year doesn't mean that will be their cap hit this year. It's almost always structured so the first year hit is the vet minimum plus the proration of the signing bonus for the year.
Yiadom I think is much more of a candidate for a straight out cut even before June 1st, and iirc he may be the only player or 1 of 2 players that saves money prior to June 1st.
Edit:
Taysom is on a void like Cam, Demario, and Foster, so the only way he saves cap this year is with an extension and I see that as very unlikely given his age and injury history (being injured in the last game to boot).
Edit2:
Also keeping in mind that just because a player gets a certain per year doesn't mean that will be their cap hit this year. It's almost always structured so the first year hit is the vet minimum plus the proration of the signing bonus for the year.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:32 am to bonethug0180
quote:
Taysom is on a void like Cam, Demario, and Foster, so the only way he saves cap this year is with an extension and I see that as very unlikely given his age and injury history (being injured in the last game to boot).
I thought we would still get relief this year from Taysom. We would just have dead cap the following year correct? We don't "save" anything but free up space for this season.
quote:Potato/ Tomato. We can free up another $20-$30 mil but it could put us in a future bind like others said.
It would be extensions rather than restructures for Jordan, Davis, and Olave, but there is also Young who can save a ton on a simple restructure ($11 mil) as well as others.
quote:This is correct. Olave isn't going anywhere. Godchaux trade would give us $4.5 but we would lose $2. Howden is the only other player and he's better than the $3mil we would save for trading/ cutting him.
Yiadom I think is much more of a candidate for a straight out cut even before June 1st, and iirc he may be the only player or 1 of 2 players that saves money prior to June 1st.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:32 am to Dantheman504
Post June 1 trades? And you think someone will trade for Ruiz? You just traded 3 starters. Sorry but what you just typed isn’t happening at all.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:37 am to RawDog7984
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Post June 1 trades? And you think someone will trade for Ruiz? You just traded 3 starters. Sorry but what you just typed isn’t happening at all.
The 4 "starters" you are talking about are
Ruiz/ Shepherd/ Werner/ Godchaux. 2 of those guys aren't winning players and the other 2 aren't part of our future and are old. The goal is quite literally to replace all 4 of those guys in the next 1-2 years.
The faster we move on from Godchaux/ Shepherd the faster we actually upgrade DL with young players. Werner/ Ruiz can probably even get you mid rd picks.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 10:40 am
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:39 am to Dantheman504
quote:He voids prior to June 1st, so all of his earned money on future years (signing bonuses spread out) accelerates to this year (which is fine anyway since we can create a ton of cap in other ways this year).
I thought we would still get relief this year from Taysom. We would just have dead cap the following year correct? We don't "save" anything but free up space for this season.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:55 am to Dantheman504
Warner could fit somewhere but Ruiz has nothing anyone would want. Not engaged. Lazy. Bad ratings last two years. High priced. You ever see him in the locker room celebrating having fun? No. He looks checked out.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 2:32 pm to yaboidarrell
Took the time to recheck the moves and this is what we can do without cuts.
Extend Jordan, Davis, and Olave, each on the cap for $5 mil this year (plus Jordan and Davis' prorated bonus from their previous contract).
Restructure Young, Kamara, Granderson, McCoy, Ruiz, Johnson, Reid, Werner, Godchaux, and Shepard.
That gets us to $77.8 mil in space (which includes the estimated rookie holds for the coming draft).
We do not need to create that much room to make moves, but when they say they are looking to do more than win the division I believe we will make most of these moves (Jordan and Davis pending what they would get in future years beyond this one, and maybe not restructuring a couple of these guys).
Extend Jordan, Davis, and Olave, each on the cap for $5 mil this year (plus Jordan and Davis' prorated bonus from their previous contract).
Restructure Young, Kamara, Granderson, McCoy, Ruiz, Johnson, Reid, Werner, Godchaux, and Shepard.
That gets us to $77.8 mil in space (which includes the estimated rookie holds for the coming draft).
We do not need to create that much room to make moves, but when they say they are looking to do more than win the division I believe we will make most of these moves (Jordan and Davis pending what they would get in future years beyond this one, and maybe not restructuring a couple of these guys).
Posted on 2/3/26 at 3:22 pm to Sunnyvale
I agree
Posted on 2/3/26 at 3:33 pm to Sunnyvale
quote:
Finally paid off all that Brees money.
As much as you people worship him.
If he would have played at a discount he would have had at least 3x rings here.
Educate yourself.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:36 pm to Sunnyvale
Wish you'd go elsewhere you cry like a lil bitch.
Posted on 2/3/26 at 9:38 pm to Townedrunkard
Do you intentionally try to be this stupid? Its gotta be an act right?
Posted on 2/3/26 at 10:36 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
Do you intentionally try to be this stupid? Its gotta be an act right?
Everything I said is correct. It’s the smart way to go.
Or let’s continue back to the path Loomis followed the few years before last offseason that led us to so many playoffs births and great cap management that worked so well.
This post was edited on 2/3/26 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 2/4/26 at 12:06 pm to bonethug0180
I've been confused why they have such a huge disparity in the reported space between OTC and spotrac and I've realized they have incorrect dead money hits for a few players, the biggest being Carr, on spotrac. OTC has him at around $37 mil dead money (the correct number), while spotrac has him at around $59 mil dead money.
Spotrac also has not moved forward any cap carryover, while it looks like OTC has (iirc it was last around $17 mil for the carryover). OTC hasn't seemed to carry the full balance of the carryover across either, as we would be right around 0 balance with the full carryover (which checks out after fixing the $22 mil extra they put on Carr and the $2 mil extra they put on Mathieu on spotrac).
The only other thing that would have OTC bang on is if we didn't carry over the full amount of unused cap (which would be silly), or if the carryover amount was slightly off with the moves made throughout the season.
Spotrac also has not moved forward any cap carryover, while it looks like OTC has (iirc it was last around $17 mil for the carryover). OTC hasn't seemed to carry the full balance of the carryover across either, as we would be right around 0 balance with the full carryover (which checks out after fixing the $22 mil extra they put on Carr and the $2 mil extra they put on Mathieu on spotrac).
The only other thing that would have OTC bang on is if we didn't carry over the full amount of unused cap (which would be silly), or if the carryover amount was slightly off with the moves made throughout the season.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/4/26 at 12:08 pm to Sunnyvale
I love the take a paycut people 
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