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re: Are people in sales dead inside?
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:13 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:13 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:15 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I think that's a trait among business people in general.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:16 pm to tigerinthebueche
Textiles and fabrication. Maybe it’s just this industry, but the handful I deal with are that way.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:17 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
NOTHING HAPPENS UNTIL SOMEONE SELLS SOMETHING.
There is a reason salespeople are some of the highest paid.
You cannot overpay a commissioned salesperson.
Not everyone is cut out for it.
There is a reason salespeople are some of the highest paid.
You cannot overpay a commissioned salesperson.
Not everyone is cut out for it.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:18 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
People beat the sales reps down all day. Only some can keep their spirits high.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:19 pm to ItzMe1972
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Not everyone is cut out for it.
Sex sells
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:19 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I've tried all kinds of sales and it's not my thing. I rarely believe in a product enough to push it and can't fake it.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:21 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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handful I deal with are that way.
Man I’m sorry for you. I’m in O&G and my vendors are part of the reason I don’t look for another job. But I think that’s just part of the oilfield. Even in shitty times, we have fun. The level of fun just gets better when things are good. I wouldn’t do business with the people you’ve described.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:22 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I sell and I’m all kinds of alive inside! I love sales.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:22 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
They have brass balls
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:25 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I’m in sales. It has allowed me to become a positive thinker, resilient, a problem solver, an effective communicator; service minded, a good listener and self motivated.
Dead inside? No
Dead inside? No
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:26 pm to ItzMe1972
There’s a lot of different types of “sales” jobs.
I’m not insincere in what I sell, and I sometimes lose orders b/c I don’t play the game and lie, or bend the truth. Those losses are usually a reminder of how stupid some people are. Not being arrogant, as I lose jobs on my own merit as well, just that stupid people buy from the slick salesman.
I also think I win orders b/c my customers trust me.
I sell a highly technical product, with the market leader. I rarely ever talk about my competition. There is no way I could work for the smaller guys with inferior products. That would be miserable.
I’m not insincere in what I sell, and I sometimes lose orders b/c I don’t play the game and lie, or bend the truth. Those losses are usually a reminder of how stupid some people are. Not being arrogant, as I lose jobs on my own merit as well, just that stupid people buy from the slick salesman.
I also think I win orders b/c my customers trust me.
I sell a highly technical product, with the market leader. I rarely ever talk about my competition. There is no way I could work for the smaller guys with inferior products. That would be miserable.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:27 pm to X123F45
quote:ive literally never had a moral dilemma in my sales career.
can sell ice to a freezing eskimo, but morals are a real bitch
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:27 pm to tigerinthebueche
I’ve looked for other suppliers, but no one can come close to getting me the product I need at the price I’m currently getting it at. For now I’m just going to have to keep putting up with it.
Sounds like you’ve got some good ones, but I’ve heard some O&G vendors are the same way. I can’t remember the name of the company in BR that sells tools for O&G, but they had a legendary douchebag selling for them. The stories about this guy even made it to our industry. He didn’t last long.
Sounds like you’ve got some good ones, but I’ve heard some O&G vendors are the same way. I can’t remember the name of the company in BR that sells tools for O&G, but they had a legendary douchebag selling for them. The stories about this guy even made it to our industry. He didn’t last long.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:29 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:it is. I was with the 800 lb gorilla for a long time, we were great at what we did. Now, with a small outfit it is an adventure with the close. V
also think I win orders b/c my customers trust me.
I sell a highly technical product, with the market leader. I rarely ever talk about my competition. There is no way I could work for the smaller guys with inferior products. That would be miserable.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:32 pm to Rouge
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Those who can....do
Those who can't....sell
Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has to sell. We are ALL in sales.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:32 pm to TeddyPadillac
Everything Teddy said.
The only sales job I hated was my first one—the “cutting your teeth” B2B job. I only hated it because our client services sucked and I always felt bad for my clients, trying to go above and beyond to solve problems that I really couldn’t.
Once I got into medical sales with a great company, I never experienced that again.
I feel like the OP is only referring to car salesman or lower end sales types.
The only sales job I hated was my first one—the “cutting your teeth” B2B job. I only hated it because our client services sucked and I always felt bad for my clients, trying to go above and beyond to solve problems that I really couldn’t.
Once I got into medical sales with a great company, I never experienced that again.
I feel like the OP is only referring to car salesman or lower end sales types.
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:34 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I started out in sales and it’s the easiest money I’ve ever made. I miss it sometimes. I like working with the public and if you aren’t a total idiot you can sell to anyone without being shady.
But not everyone is cut out for dealing with people and convincing them of the benefit of their product.
But not everyone is cut out for dealing with people and convincing them of the benefit of their product.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:39 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
There is retail sales mostly to ignorant people who will believe things that aren't true but because they like the way it sounds. I've been in buying/selling/brokering much of my life but to other businesses who already know what they want. It's more of a finding the right market for me and then automatic. Unfortunately, web based competition by companies that don't know Shiite from shinola have muddied the market and they always fail. Engineered items don't do well that way.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:46 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
I’ve been in sales my whole life in one form or another. In my 20s and 30s I probably did die inside pretending to care about my company’s goods and services. The death comes when you are not true to who you are in some respect- it makes you feel like a phony- and thus no matter how successful you are at the job it still leaves you feeling hollow. Then I just found the right gig - the ones the personality tests told me matched me but that I resisted . Now I’m in the PERSUASION business. And my Craft energizes me, brings me into daily contact with people that I make deep connections with and that thank me and that benefit from having sought my expertise.
What I’m saying is it has to be an extension of your Ethical beliefs and also tap into your authentic self . Then you can really prosper while helping people. You approach it with the heart of a teacher/counselor/friend instead of as a carnivore. And the more people sense you actually like them the more they will invest back into you.
What I’m saying is it has to be an extension of your Ethical beliefs and also tap into your authentic self . Then you can really prosper while helping people. You approach it with the heart of a teacher/counselor/friend instead of as a carnivore. And the more people sense you actually like them the more they will invest back into you.
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