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re: Elon: ‘We have entered the singularity’
Posted on 1/4/26 at 4:40 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 1/4/26 at 4:40 pm to StringedInstruments
I remember not that long ago most people including me thought self driving cars were nothing more than scientific fantasy in the near term.
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 4:46 pm to hawgfaninc
Someone pls explain this language (singularity).
What is single about this?
What is single about this?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 4:58 pm to Everyday Is Saturday
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Someone pls explain this language (singularity).
What is single about this?
You'll sometimes see some splintered definitions, but the combined definition is generally more accepted: the singularity is the point in which technology, generally an Artificial Intelligence, is capable of independently designing and executing its replacement or upgrades, ushering in a period of technological advancement so fast that it becomes impossible to predict the technological landscape months, weeks, or even days into the future in the way that we currently can't accurately look more than a few years.
That's the singularity. Anyone trying to pretend as though our current Large Language Models are anywhere close to that is either ignorant or selling you something.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:10 pm to Sunnyvale
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How, do you understand this?
To paraphrase Chevy Chase, "It's all nanometers these days. "
We are at the lower limit in the wavelength of light in the EUV (really, X-ray) spectrum that we can generate to make chips with, and even getting to this point was one of the most phenomenal engineering achievements of mankind. We can't make chips any denser, hence smaller and faster, until we figure out a way to create EM radiation at a smaller wavelength.
The next step is a leap to non-transistor technology, ie, quantum computing. That bypasses the need for ever shorter wavelengths of light.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:12 pm to GeauxPanthers2
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Yeah frick all that
Agree
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:32 pm to hawgfaninc
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The technological singularity is a hypothetical future point where AI surpasses human intelligence, leading to runaway technological growth and unpredictable, transformative changes, often envisioned as an "intelligence explosion" where superintelligent AI rapidly self-improves beyond human comprehension, akin to an astrophysics event horizon. While debated, proponents like Ray Kurzweil suggest this could merge humans with machines or create advanced solutions to global problems, whereas critics warn of existential risks and the potential for AI dominance, emphasizing the need for ethical development.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:36 pm to BCvol
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:45 pm to hawgfaninc
What definition of “singularity” is he using?
If it’s the original one, it requires AI surpassing general human intelligence and engaging in recursive self-improvement beyond human control. Where is that system?
If the answer is just higher personal output, that's just hype.
If it’s the original one, it requires AI surpassing general human intelligence and engaging in recursive self-improvement beyond human control. Where is that system?
If the answer is just higher personal output, that's just hype.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:50 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:“Build, ship, iterate” is a product mantra, not a civilizational strategy.
If this is the singularity, the move is simple: build, ship, iterate. Don’t slow it down. Don’t fear it. Shape it.
Acceleration is the path to abundance.
Tech bros high on their own farts.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:04 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:Bubbles are caused by erroneous consensus among people with shared incentives.
You might be onto something if other tech heads didn’t agree with him & are saying similar.
But continue trying to be pragmatic to protect your feelings in case it’s really not that good. Don’t want your feelings hurt.
So who agrees with him is irrelevant.
The only question is whether the definition fits reality.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:05 pm to bad93ex
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We've hit the physical limits of processors, hence the reason they're building horizontally. Once we've achieved quantum computing then we will be more likely to hit "singularity" but that is also dependent on significant improvements to our energy infrastructure.
I believe it’ll be quite the opposite. Energy needs are sky high because of the number of GPUs necessary to provide enough compute to run and train these models. Quantum, which already exists in crude form, can accomplish amazing things using one chip, operating using qubits instead of binary 1s and 0s. Unlike a binary bit, a qubit can be and perform multiple things at once. With this capability, we’ll be able to EXPONENTIALLY increase the power of a single chip. Of course, the chip requires extreme cooling but it will not require an outlay like AI data centers.
All that said, to the best of knowledge, no company has attempted to mix AI modeling with quantum computers. Google already shut down their quantum project, Willow, after realizing it could encrypt data to the point that no one or no thing, including a quantum computer, was capable of turning the data unencrypted.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:08 pm to northshorebamaman
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If it’s the original one, it requires AI surpassing general human intelligence and engaging in recursive self-improvement beyond human control. Where is that system?
The Turing test….and no AI has passed it yet and no sign anyone is particularly close.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:12 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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The Turing test….and no AI has passed it yet and no sign anyone is particularly close.
You sure about that?
ChatGPT passed the Turing Test (2024)
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:16 pm to bad93ex
There is no single Turing Test to “pass.” It's a thought experiment, not a certification.
Some people being fooled in a constrained chat setup isn’t evidence of general intelligence.
Some people being fooled in a constrained chat setup isn’t evidence of general intelligence.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:19 pm to northshorebamaman
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There is no single Turing Test to “pass.” It's a thought experiment, not a certification.
Some people being fooled in a constrained chat setup isn’t evidence of general intelligence.
It is hosted on corNot University but study was submitted from UC San Diego
Large Language Models pass the Turing test
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We evaluated 4 systems (ELIZA, GPT-4o, LLaMa-3.1-405B, and GPT-4.5) in two randomised, controlled, and pre-registered Turing tests on independent populations. Participants had 5 minute conversations simultaneously with another human participant and one of these systems before judging which conversational partner they thought was human. When prompted to adopt a humanlike persona, GPT-4.5 was judged to be the human 73% of the time: significantly more often than interrogators selected the real human participant. LLaMa-3.1, with the same prompt, was judged to be the human 56% of the time -- not significantly more or less often than the humans they were being compared to -- while baseline models (ELIZA and GPT-4o) achieved win rates significantly below chance (23% and 21% respectively). The results constitute the first empirical evidence that any artificial system passes a standard three-party Turing test. The results have implications for debates about what kind of intelligence is exhibited by Large Language Models (LLMs), and the social and economic impacts these systems are likely to have.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:26 pm to hawgfaninc
Elon wants to get to Mars in his lifetime. With these advancements in programming and machine learning, it is almost a certainty that will now happen. Without being where we are now, and where we will go, there is zero chance that would have happened.
Now we may make it there in the next 2 decades.
Sure I'm a little worried about it too. But I trust Elon and all of his AI contemporaries. Let's see what happens.
Now we may make it there in the next 2 decades.
Sure I'm a little worried about it too. But I trust Elon and all of his AI contemporaries. Let's see what happens.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:27 pm to hawgfaninc
Feel like we're always hearing about these big tech advancements and how fast tech is progressing each year, yet I feel like life for the average person hasn't changed much in quite a while.
It's been pretty much the personal computer, the internet, the smart phone, then a long lull in my mind.
For the tech folks who are smarter than me, what does this mean practically for the average Joe?
And yes I use Ai daily.
It's been pretty much the personal computer, the internet, the smart phone, then a long lull in my mind.
For the tech folks who are smarter than me, what does this mean practically for the average Joe?
And yes I use Ai daily.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:30 pm to bad93ex
quote:I read it. They define their own constrained, short-form imitation game and then call that “a Turing test.”
It is hosted on corNot University but study was submitted from UC San Diego
Large Language Models pass the Turing test
That shows LLMs are good at human mimicry under specific conditions. It does not establish general intelligence, self-direction, or anything like a singularity.
AGI would have to demonstrate broad reasoning, autonomous goal formation, persistent memory, and the ability to operate independently without scaffolding.
Do you think ChatGPT is AGI? If not, what do you think this result actually proves beyond mimicry?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:31 pm to OweO
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I am assuming he is referring to coding? If so, I don't think he is wrong at all. Me, who knows very little about coding, was able to get ChatGPT to start building a code for a game that could be put on Apple Apps.
I built a website (with WordPress but still), a 100 episode podcast and have a blog that is now able to manage to stay fairly updated. I did all of this with ChatGPT and Gemini. Now while none of it is really all that good, it was some pretty dynamic first steps from someone with absolutely zero computer programming skill.
If I did that, what can actually smart people do?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:31 pm to bad93ex
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You sure about that?
A 5 minute chat convinced 54% of respondents it was human. That is not widely recognized as “passing”.
Your post got me to looking into it a bit and I had no idea the Turing test has fallen out of favor due to its subjectivity. Interesting. I guess there’s no single, agreed-upon measure now?
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