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re: Help me understand... Why Daylight Saving over Standard?
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:32 pm to winkchance
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:32 pm to winkchance
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All they do is go from a dark evening to a dark morning, and vice versa.
A light evening is more useful than a light morning for most people.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:34 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Untrue. I imagine that the limitations you speak of only exist because of a business being open or closed before vs after work. However, There is no physical reasons that one couldn't do said activity before work vs after work. If there is demand for an activity, the market will adjust.
People aren’t going to all of a sudden start getting up at the crack of dawn to run errands, grill out, mow the lawn etc.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:47 pm to Crowknowsbest
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People aren’t going to all of a sudden start getting up at the crack of dawn to run errands, grill out, mow the lawn etc.
You didn't debunk anything I said. You just pointed out people are lazy.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:48 pm to Crowknowsbest
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A light evening is more useful than a light morning for most people.
Opinion, not fact.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:51 pm to Crowknowsbest
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A light evening is more useful than a light morning for most people.
You have this in the fall/winter when on standard time.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 3:59 pm to Locoguan0
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The big push is to remain on DST year round. Why?
because morons living in subdivisions don't want the "suns up, blades down" crew cutting grass at 5:30am in the summer.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:00 pm to meeple
quote:Standard time is in the winter, when it gets dark really early.
You have this in the fall/winter when on standard time.
Standard time/Date
Sun, Nov 6, 2022 - Sun, Mar 12, 2023
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:06 pm to liz18lsu
I think only a fool cuts a 12" off of the top of the blanket and sews it to the bottom, expecting to make a longer blanket.
There a parts of the the country that are going to have miserable months regardless. I know keep DST all year would mean the latest sunrise would be around 8:43 AM where I am. That would suck.

There a parts of the the country that are going to have miserable months regardless. I know keep DST all year would mean the latest sunrise would be around 8:43 AM where I am. That would suck.

This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:07 pm to Swamp Angel
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That western portion of the eastern time zone was pitch black dark this morning until well after 7:00 AM!
The eastern time zone is too big. It should be redrawn and/or perhaps another zone added.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:16 pm to slacker130
Sunrise at 8:43 am isn't dark (unless you are behind a mountain).
The sun doesn't work that way. Lol
The sun doesn't work that way. Lol
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:21 pm to meansonny
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Sunrise at 8:43 am isn't dark (unless you are behind a mountain).
Guess, what? I have a range of 10,000+' mountains 3 miles to my east. They delay sunrise for over 1 hour in the winter months. And 65-70% of the rest of the folks in this state are in the shadow of the range as well. Additionally we are in the far west of the time zone which makes the sunrise problem worse.
Also, most of the folks that advocate for this live in the southern part of the US. The further north you go, the shorter the winter days get. Therefore, staying with DST all year more severely impacts the late sunrise time for those folks. When the day is is only 9.5-10 hours long in the winter, the sun is setting early no matter what.
This post was edited on 3/13/23 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:34 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Guess, what? I have a range of 10,000+' mountains 3 miles to my east.
Then you are screwed regardless of timezone.
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The further north you go, the shorter the winter days get. Therefore, staying with DST all year more severely impacts the late sunrise time for those folks.
If a delayed sunrise was problemsom... you wouldn't live so far north.
Quit making up fake issues that you obviously care so little about. If it was a big deal, you'd move.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 4:58 pm to GetCocky11
Personally, I wish Louisiana could stay GMT - 6 hours . I like the conversion with regards to weather observations.
(Zulu) -6 hrs is optimal.
(Zulu) -6 hrs is optimal.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:06 pm to slacker130
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I know keep DST all year would mean the latest sunrise would be around 8:43 AM where I am. That would suck.
The sun could rise at 9 am and I truly would not care. Most people are at work or school and therefore not participating in anything requiring sunlight.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:13 pm to meansonny
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Quit making up fake issues that you obviously care so little about. If it was a big deal, you'd move.
Then quit trying to force your own personal best case scenario on the rest of the country without considering the impact on others.
I've got no problem losing 1 hour of sleep 1 day a year. For 99% of folks it takes 1 maybe 2 days to adjust. But what I'm trying, unsuccessfully, to get folks to realize that if losing that 1 hour is so inconvenient that we stick with 1 time, Standard time is the most practical solution for the vast majority of the country. People are just too narrowly focused on their own situation/location to see it.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:21 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Not if they have kids to feed and get ready for school.
I do this and workout in the AM.
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Plus I don't think my neighbors would appreciate hearing my lawn mower at 6am.
That isn’t exercise.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:23 pm to LaLadyinTx
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Most people are at work or school and therefore not participating in anything requiring sunlight.
Well except everyone who produces your food, builds your houses, etc…
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:41 pm to Epic Cajun
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I don't give a shite which one we stick with, but it's stupid AF to change our clocks at any point during the year.
I do have a preference but I agree, I’d pick either instead of changing it twice a year. That’s nonsense.
Posted on 3/13/23 at 5:44 pm to meansonny
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The sun doesn't work that way. Lol
Civil twilight usually is 20-25 minutes before sunrise or after sunset. Lol
Posted on 3/13/23 at 6:17 pm to Locoguan0
Usually more heart attacks and accidents the Monday after this garbage day light savings is enacted
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