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re: I had no idea Muslims thought so highly of Jesus and Mary

Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:35 am to
I’m not actually disagreeing with you
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:38 am to
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That’s not really accurate. The Quran is written to be a companion to the existing Bible. It heavily references existing passages as existing passages. The entire premise of the Quran is that God is annoyed that humans managed to frick up his revelation again, so now he’s going to lay out word for word rules, and a lot of that is “clarifying” Bible passages.


This is almost exactly what I said. I said it plainly, you tried to romanticize it.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:39 am to
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The Crusades certainly didn't help.


Let’s not forget that the Syrian, Palestinian, Egyptian, etc. regions were all Christian before the Muslims invaded. The Crusades were a response to take the Holy Land back.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:40 am to
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The Crusades certainly didn't help.
The Crusades were literally a response to Muslim conquest and pillaging

Surely you were taught that in schoo. . .

. . .You know what? of course you weren't

Why would I assume proper education?

Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:44 am to
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The Crusades were literally a response to Muslim conquest and pillaging Surely you were taught that in schoo. . .


fightin tigers is legit retarded.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 8:45 am
Posted by AUin02
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:46 am to
The thing that began 1000 years ago and ended 700 years ago? That happened as a direct result of Muslims invading and conquering Christian territories? That thing?

I know we joke about Muslims being stuck in the stone age but if something that happened a millennia ago as a result of your own kind fricking around and finding out is your excuse for your actions in 2026 then maybe many Muslims aren't emotionally or intellectually mature enough to interact with modern civilization.

shite the Mongols seized, looted, burned, and put the city of Baghdad to the sword around the time that the crusades were winding down but Muslims aren't frothing at the mouth to commit jihad in Mongolia.
Posted by Rust Cohle
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:46 am to
It’s fascinating how religious traditions grow in dialogue with their historical context. By the time Christianity emerges, Judaism had already evolved through Persian and Hellenistic influence. The idea that any tradition is culturally isolated doesn’t really match history.
Posted by greenbean
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:48 am to
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They think so highly of him that many Muslims want to kill his followers.


At least they are up front about it, unlike another region that wants to destroy us, yet we do their bidding.
Posted by LakeSide Lovin
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:48 am to
Well the Quran was written by Satan so the whole goal of it is to paint the picture of a false Jesus

They can think as highly of Him as they want but if they don’t think he’s the eternal Son of God who died for their sins and rose again then it’s worthless
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:48 am to
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This is almost exactly what I said. I said it plainly, you tried to romanticize it.

No, no, and no. If someone writes an annotated companion to Hamlet, no one would say that they “mostly copied Hamlet”. Your wording is misleading to anyone who isn’t familiar with the texts.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:49 am to
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They think so highly of him that many Muslims want to kill his followers.


Is this what fox news told you to think?
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:50 am to
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This is almost exactly what I said. I said it plainly, you tried to romanticize it.

Josh answered from Muslims’ own POV, which is valuable when the thread is about an unexpected realization of how Muslims viewed Jesus

Your “plain-spoken version” is just heavily editorialized from the Christian POV and not really helpful to the topic
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:51 am to
If a loser kid took a smart kid's homework, changed a few things then added a bunch of pedofilic nonsense, we'd call it what it is.

And we would probably put the loser kid on a watch list.

But since it's dubbed a religion, we have to dance around the truth. Because tolerance.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:52 am to
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Your “plain-spoken version” is just heavily editorialized from the Christian POV and not really helpful to the topic


What's the topic?
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:52 am to
They believe in his existence but they don’t worship him.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 9:00 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:53 am to
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If a loser kid took a smart kid's homework, changed a few things then added a bunch of pedofilic nonsense, we'd call it what it is. And we would probably put the loser kid on a watch list. But since it's dubbed a religion, we have to dance around the truth. Because tolerance.

It’s now been many years since I read the Quran, but isn’t all the pedo stuff in later hadiths, not in the Quran itself?
Posted by DiamondDog
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:55 am to
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Key Aspects of Jesus in Islamic End Times:


It's really fascinating if you compare their escatalogical views.

Muslims believe the Al-Dajjal will be defeated by the Madhi and Jesus. Their Jesus will return and abolish Christianity. Pray behind the Madhi, etc.

Christians have an inverse view. We believe The Anti-Christ and his False Prophet will come to the scene to establish new order and abolish Christianity. They will mount war against Christ and will be defeated.

What Muslims call Jesus will be the False Prophet. Their Madhi is the Anti-Christ. Their "devil" is the one true Jesus Christ. It's quite striking.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:55 am to
Like I said, copy the word of God, change things you don't like, then receive additional word from God that aligns with your desires.

There is a hadith that agrees with everything I said, ostensibly from Muhammad's baby bride.
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:58 am to
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They can think as highly of Him as they want but if they don’t think he’s the eternal Son of God who died for their sins and rose again then it’s worthless


Again, I’m not defending anything regarding Muslims, just stating I was unaware of their beliefs or teachings on Jesus and Mary.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:58 am to
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Muslims believe the Al-Dajjal will be defeated by the Madhi


Lisan al-Gaib!

ETA: Also, fightin tigers is an idiot.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 9:02 am
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