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re: I honestly thought this was a fake statistic, but it isn’t. Tokyo budget vs NYC budget
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Per capita, per GDP, Japan is in way more debt than the US is too.
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Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:43 am to Zappas Stache
Your talking out of your arse. I know you haven't been.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:44 am to Scruffy
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The issue being brought up isn’t the degree of taxation.
It is that American citizens get horrendous returns on their taxes.
People would care less about paying taxes if their streets were clean and well-managed, their cities were safe, their public institutions were well run.
That is the issue.
But you're bringing up a lot of issues that aren't directly related to tax levels or government. Most of what you're describing is a people/culture issue that only the most extreme levels of authoritarianism can combat. It's like when leftists blame things like food deserts on the government because they can't separate the public from the private.
And there are tradeoffs with the culture. There is a reason why Japan looked like it was going to take over the world in the 80s and early 90s and didn't, and doesn't innovate much and has even, regionally, let South Korea emerge as a legit competitor. The freedom that the US has certainly leads to drawbacks (like a larger underclass) but it also has many advantages (like more individual opportunity, a much larger upper class, and an overall much more productive society).
Japan's PCGDP is right at $52-52k
New York (the state) is $92k.
Only 9-10 US states rank below Japan's PCGDP
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:45 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Tokyo isn’t full of Democrat voters.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:47 am to fightin tigers
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What expenses does each city cover?
For instance local schools in the US are funded in a small part on a national level but mostly on a state level. Looking at NYC they cover 50% of their public school funding. Is that representative of how Japanese public schools are funded?
Louisiana and Tokyo are close to each other in budgets.
Japan is more heavily taxed than the US so there may be more to this data.
I was going to post something similar initially but went to look if anyone pointed it out. I imagine Japan's federal government covers a lot of spending in municipalities so the localities themselves don't tax/spend as much. Just different government strutures.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 7:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is embarrassing. I can’t think of another word.
Dims
Posted on 2/22/26 at 8:02 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Culture, vs. cultcha…
Posted on 2/22/26 at 8:42 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is embarrassing. I can’t think of another word.
All one race no lazy, entitled trash.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 8:50 am to ATrillionaire
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Only TD.com would blame the NYC budget on black people. Shameful.
Good point. There's no way black people in NYC are contributing anything to the NYC budget.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Even more embarrassing is that Tokyo 's actual population is 38.+ million & N.Y.C.'s is only 8.4 million. A bit more than "twice" the size. Son has lived / married in Nagoya, Japan's 4th largest city, for 7+ yrs now & loves it. Safe beyond comparison, no trash in store parking lots / streets / anywhere, people are ridiculously polite, older people are revered, education is free for life with 3 + kids.....there is a serious declining population issue, related ??...education is a 1000 times better ...middle school teachers are university professors like...But, good, bad, or ugly, according to my beautiful Japanese daughter-in-law, Japan is almost 95 % Japanese.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I can’t think of another word
Democrats
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote:What expenses does each city cover? For instance local schools in the US are funded in a small part on a national level but mostly on a state level. Looking at NYC they cover 50% of their public school funding. Is that representative of how Japanese public schools are funded? Louisiana and Tokyo are close to each other in budgets. Japan is more heavily taxed than the US so there may be more to this data. I was going to post something similar initially but went to look if anyone pointed it out. I imagine Japan's federal government covers a lot of spending in municipalities so the localities themselves don't tax/spend as much. Just different government strutures.
And half of Louisiana’s budget is Medicaid.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:14 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Tokyo is also super dense and doesn't have strict zoning regulations. It's pretty common for older property owners to add 2 or 3 apartments to their property as retirement income.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:19 am to ATrillionaire
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Only TD.com would blame the NYC budget on black people. Shameful.
I mean it’s a statistical fact that white people pay for over 80% of the federal budget despite only making slightly more than 60% of the population. Asian and Whites are the only groups of people that are net producers.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:22 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Would be interesting to see some details such as
How much does Tokyo save from their budget by Japan's federal government paying health care?
How much do they save from their education budget due to the federal government's "free through high school" for everyone program?
etc etc and so on
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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Just different government strutures.
I've done some business in Japan. Corporate tax has a lot less loopholes. Write offs are basically only for hiring new employees are buying more equipment/machinery.
Property taxes arent high. Cities like Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, and Nagoya are more self funded. Rural areas/smaller cities are more reliant on federal money. Rural development subsidies aren't much of a thing there so you have entire towns and villages that once had 3 to 5k people in the 70's are now down to a few hundred people and they're all elderly.
Education is a mix of funding. Municipal taxes help fund K-9. High School (10-12) and rural education is entirely funded by the prefecture. Feds help fund all of them.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:54 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
With Mamdami in charge, I’m eagerly waiting NYC’s hilarious collapse. I’m sure all that will happen is nothing and the city will just remain the shithole it’s been. But I’m still secretly hoping it becomes an unlivable hellscape that nobody can even visit.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:11 am to wm72
quote:Funding is combined from national, prefectural (think state), municipal (think parish/county more than city/town), and family levels.
How much do they save from their education budget due to the federal government's "free through high school" for everyone program?
Grade school (1-6) and junior high school (7-9) are mandatory. Teachers are funded via national (33%) and prefectural (67%) funds. School facilities and maintenance are funded and managed via municipal funds. Uniforms, meals, supplies, and travel are funded via family funds. There are extra national funds to help cover the difference in very rural and low family income situations.
Senior high school (10-12) is not mandatory and is funded and managed at the national, prefectural, and family level. Same as above, but the prefecture is in charge of the schools.
Tokyo is so large that it works as its own prefecture with multiple municipal districts. So 1/3 of teacher salaries come from the national level, and there are extra national funds to help low income families, but the rest is prefectural and local districts.
Health care is a different topic, but the funding also comes from multiple levels. I will say that my experience (as a municipal employee, not just a tourist) was that it was quicker, cheaper, and more accessible in Japan (Osaka area) compared to Louisiana (GNO and BR area). They're also much less prone to throwing pills at things over there.
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
East Asian countries know how to keep their cities meticulously clean. How they do it is beyond me.
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Cleaner and safer?
Obviously Tokyo is missing something that NYC has ..... HMMMM ....
Obviously Tokyo is missing something that NYC has ..... HMMMM ....
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