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re: I think Juneteenth should be a national holiday.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:33 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:33 am to PrimeTime Money
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From what I understand, the slaves freed in Texas were freed 2 and a half years after the Emancipation Proclamation. Texas was the last holdout, and the Union troops finally reached Texas and freed the last remaining slaves in the United States.
So it marked the end of slavery in both Texas and the United States.
Incorrect. Slavery was legal and still occurring in Kentucky and Delaware right up until the 13th was ratified, six months after Juneteenth.
So yes, Juneteenth is a Texas holiday, not a national one. There were still slaves in this country after Juneteenth.
Which pretty much says all that needs to be said about the state of history education in this country.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 10:35 am
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:35 am to PrimeTime Money
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It basically marks the end of slavery. Every American was now free.
maybe you should read the proclamation, cause what you posted was false. Not only didn't it free the slaves is South Louisiana, it sanctioned it.
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Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans)
IMO a better date would be-
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The 13th amendment was ratified by the required number of states on December 6, 1865
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:35 am to PrimeTime Money
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From what I understand, the slaves freed in Texas were freed 2 and a half years after the Emancipation Proclamation. Texas was the last holdout, and the Union troops finally reached Texas and freed the last remaining slaves in the United States.
So it marked the end of slavery in both Texas and the United States
Union slaves weren’t yet free. Read the emancipation proclamation more carefully.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:36 am to SEClint
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That most of those in Angola deserve to be there. And yes, they deserve to be there
I agree with that part. Most of them deserved to get life three trials ago. Our system is too light on the horrendously bad.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:42 am to PrimeTime Money
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I think Juneteenth should be a national holiday
I have no problem with this.
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It's not a "Black holiday". It should be an American holiday.
But this would never fly with the BLM people. It's not about being equal. It's about elevating anything attached to "black culture" above everyone and everything else. They would absolutely demand that it be for black people and black people only.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:52 am to PrimeTime Money
Not sure it’s legal to base a holiday on race
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:53 am to SlidellCajun
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Not sure it’s legal to base a holiday on race
Not sure it's legal to wall off part of a city and make it an autonomous zone either, yet here we are.
Law and legality have nothing to do with what's going on right now.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 11:01 am to Centinel
It doesn’t have to be 100% the technical end of slavery to be celebrated as a day representative of the general ending of slavery.
Holidays mean more when there is a specific event that was the root cause of a more general celebration.
Juneteenth is rooted in an actual event that took place that could represent the general ending of slavery in the U.S., even if it wasn’t technically 100% ended.
Holidays mean more when there is a specific event that was the root cause of a more general celebration.
Juneteenth is rooted in an actual event that took place that could represent the general ending of slavery in the U.S., even if it wasn’t technically 100% ended.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 11:03 am to PrimeTime Money
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Juneteenth is rooted in an actual event that took place that could represent the general ending of slavery in the U.S., even if it wasn’t technically 100% ended.
The ratification of the 13th Amendment was an actual event that took place, that did in fact end slavery in this country.
Not just the South.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:06 pm to Centinel
You are all too hung up on a date. No one seems to care that the 4th of July should actually be the 2nd of August, so why do you care about this date?
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
It is most certainly a black holiday they ain’t doing it for the white man I think not
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:29 pm to PrimeTime Money
Hey, I'm all for another paid holiday, especially since it is also my anniversary day. I look forward to being off work from now on for my anniversary.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:39 pm to DomincDecoco
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Its my anniversary so Im down with the day off.
I didn’t know you and landmass made it official
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
nah
how bout one for when we landed on the moon
how bout one for when we landed on the moon
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:30 pm to PrimeTime Money
Are you black?
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
I'm down. But can we do it on the Monday closest to it so we can get a 3 day weekend?
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:03 pm to Huey Lewis
Good point, I would still be in favor of it becoming a Natl' Holiday....boded well for Honest Abe and all of the white and black people who fought and died to end it. This crowd today is historically ignorant, and won't stand still long enough with humility to be educated. They are interested in themselves and erasing our history and traditions. Bunch of dangerous, ungrateful, narcissistic knuckleheads.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:48 pm to Boogalie
I'll support it as a national holiday not tied to blacks wen I see as many blacks marching in 4th of July parades as there are whites. In today's social reality, it is a black holiday. Today, racial divisiveness is worse than ever, blame either / both sides as you will.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 3:53 pm to Keltic Tiger
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blame either / both sides as you will.
I blame one side and take zero responsibility
Posted on 6/21/20 at 4:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
As I grew older I added things to a growing list of things to not give a frick about. I have no feelings whatsoever about this. I don’t keep a real list but just recognize something on the list as it comes around. Let’s have a beer!
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