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Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:27 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I have no clue why people have such a hard on about Peterson trying to put a rudder on a generation of aimless men.
When you view the left through the lens of history, you can break them into two pretty standard groups - the smaller, powerful group are the crafters of the narrative and you should judge all of their actions in terms of the pursuit of power. They use a lot of nonsensical phrasing - i.e. oppression, revolution, privilege, etc. - but all of it returns to one fundamental truth: the left seeks total control.
The much larger group on the left is the foot soldiers. Many of these people may noble intentions but they are being completely manipulated by the smaller, powerful group. They act as a hive-minded system to do the bidding of the first group. Every massive leftist movement in history starts with two groups - the young and the poor. And the reason is because these two groups are the most easily controlled.
Now, when you view someone like Peterson from the perspective of the small, powerful group of leftists, you can see why they race to marginalize him. His advice, simple as it might be, directly counteracts what the powerful leftists ultimately seek.
I think people fool themselves on some of these issues. It's never really about the issue; it's about a path to control.
"The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution"
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:36 pm to Jcorye1
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Carolla is better at interviewing smart people because he finds ways to translate it to what he knows. His interviews will sometimes go off the rails though, because he'll then go off on a tangent about some dumb shite earlier in his life that kind of has the same situation but not really.
Very true. Carolla is always funny too which makes him easier to listen to I guess.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:46 pm to Lsupimp
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Messiah? Wut? I truly loathe NPC bots like you who can't discuss a given topic honestly. It's just pathetic. You've been so conditioned to attack people, you don't even attempt to rise above a Straw Man. It's sad for the culture. It's why we can't have nice stuff anymore.
You’re just furthering my point. Any criticism of him and y’all melt the frick down. As you’ve now done at least twice since I said what I said and tried to make it personal as well.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:50 pm to Lsupimp
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Here is how the mindless ladysplainer NPC wagged her finger
Well that’s a mature retort that will totally convince me I should buy in.
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Go cancel your poor husband or do something constructive with your life, tearing critical thinking and rational inquiry down 24/7/365 ain't working.
Well in the last month I’ve earned my M.Ed. and am now a licensed therapist. I like to think that’s pretty constructive. Thanks for the recommendation though.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Any criticism of him and y’all melt the frick down.
Criticism? You posted an objectively false statement about him.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:56 pm to efrad
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Criticism? You posted an objectively false statement about him
if society believes it to be true, then is it false?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 2:59 pm to efrad
quote:what "objectively false statement" did she make?
ou posted an objectively false statement about him.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:02 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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what "objectively false statement" did she make?
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he’s literally just a self-help writer with a psychology background.
One can shite on his opinions all day, but to say literally all he's ever done is write self-help books, that's objectively untrue.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:03 pm to efrad
that's fair, i guess
some of you people's responses in this thread are fricking weird though
people getting bashed for giving him a handjob with spit instead of a two handed blowjob
some of you people's responses in this thread are fricking weird though
people getting bashed for giving him a handjob with spit instead of a two handed blowjob
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:06 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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some of you people's responses in this thread are fricking weird though
people getting bashed for giving him a handjob with spit instead of a two handed blowjob
Which is why I explicitly said he's no messiah. He isn't.
He's a genius in some areas, and extremely fallible in others. Like any other human
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:09 pm to OMLandshark
Shocker they went with Rogan… shocked completely
Is this episode worth a listen ? 4 hours … will I get anything from it ?
Is this episode worth a listen ? 4 hours … will I get anything from it ?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:10 pm to Lawyered
I’m about an hour into it, and it’s decent so far.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:10 pm to efrad
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One can shite on his opinions all day, but to say literally all he's ever done is write self-help books, that's objectively untrue.
I mean, that’s in essence what he’s done. He’s not a producer of research. Which makes him a consumer in the field and his concepts aren’t anything new to psychology. He’s just framed them in a way to make them palatable to the general public.
He lectures and teaches but again, it’s not new concepts.
His biggest achievements is the literature he’s produced that is of the self-help genre.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:12 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I have no clue why people have such a hard on about Peterson trying to put a rudder on a generation of aimless men.
By people, you mean leftists. And it's because personal responsibility is the bane to any leftist, so much so that the mere mentioning of being accountable for one's own actions and self, sends them into a rage.
If one is accountable for one's own actions, then the role of government is diminished. Government is a religion to leftists, and therefore, there can be no higher power than fed gov.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:12 pm to BluegrassBelle
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You’re just furthering my point. Any criticism of him and y’all melt the frick down.
That is absolutely true. I honestly don't know why people like him so much, or what he offers that earlier thinkers don't.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:15 pm to OMLandshark
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Jordan Peterson
Am I supposed to know who this a-hole is?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:16 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Primarily because he wrestles with that very question daily. I do believe now, after watching his clip with Jonathan Pagaeu, that God is working on him in a very deep way. I think that Christ is not knocking on the door to his heart, but pounding on it, if Peterson has not answered yet. I don't know, that's just one man's belief on that particular topic with him
just finished the Rogan interview and i think he's definitely trying to logic himself into accepting Christ.
it's a foolish way to approach faith, but i think that the prospect of creation, fall, and redemption as described in the Bible is really making him second guess how he approaches logic and his view of science. He basically has always approached psychology in a purely scientific and clinical way, but is realizing the Bible had a lot of stuff we consider "ground breaking" covered with sin nature and redemption 2000 years ago.
it's very interesting as it's an academic is basically reasoning himself into faith in Christ.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 3:16 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I mean, that’s in essence what he’s done.
Oh, so not literally?
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His biggest achievements is the literature he’s produced that is of the self-help genre.
Achievement in terms of what? Sales?
12 Rules for Life and Beyond Order are just rags compared to his other work. Which is why it's silly to reduce him to that.
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