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Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2883 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:44 pm to
Great interpretation and simulation. Makes sense.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146896 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 6:42 pm to
death toll has sadly risen to 22... and surely still to rise

also... an emergency order has been signed to demolish the rest of the building as soon as engineers are ready to do so (which may be a while still)
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53745 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Our desire to pay for it has gotten worse.

Just look around.

At what? Buildings have been falling since buildings were first built. We have a lot more of them now then we’ve ever had before. That’s why there is more collapses. Do you have data that shows a higher percentage of 40 year old buildings are collapsing now then used to 20 years ago? Of course not; you’re just guessing off of anecdotal information.

I am also guessing, but my guess is based on the fact that building codes are much more stringent and inspections and maintenance are mandated much more.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11595 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:03 pm to
Extraordinary video. Thank you.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36193 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:18 pm to
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YouTube - computer simulation of collapse with video/photo supporting evidence

Another excellent video. Makes sense and helps to understand what likely happened.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32900 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 4:57 pm to
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ABC 33/40 News
@abc3340
JUST IN: SURFSIDE, Fla. (@AP) -- Fire official: Search amid condo rubble suspended as crew prepares for the demolition of the remainder of the building.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2708 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 4:58 pm to
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quote:
ABC 33/40 News
@abc3340
JUST IN: SURFSIDE, Fla. (@AP) -- Fire official: Search amid condo rubble suspended as crew prepares for the demolition of the remainder of the building.



What % of the rubble have they searched?

Seems premature
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73223 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:00 pm to
I absolutely have thoughts and prayers out to the family and loved ones of those in that mess that have yet to be found. They will have no joy on this holiday, let's us hope they have closure and peace soon.
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 5:39 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73223 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:01 pm to
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What % of the rubble have they searched?

Seems premature

This is likely being done as a safety concern for those working on recovery.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30941 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:07 pm to
I’ve never liked the idea of skyscrapers built on sand.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14877 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:21 pm to
Well, it’s looking like it’s the failure of the pool deck slab. Not sand foundation, assuming that sand was used as a part of the earthwork.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:32 pm to
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What % of the rubble have they searched?

Seems premature


You really think someone is alive in there?
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14877 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 5:46 pm to
Yeah it’s recovery now. Not rescue.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23828 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:27 pm to
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Once it goes down will it kill the rest of them


I’m assuming they can drop it on itself so no.

But in regards to suspending the search, I’m assuming someone was behind the scenes realistic and originally was hoping to find survivors. After this much time and effort in realizing there’s not really any gaps a survivor could be, they did another risk analysis for the search and rescue.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6058 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 6:34 pm to
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Once it goes down will it kill the rest of them


There’s no one left to die. If anyone managed to survive the collapse but hasn’t been rescued, by now they’ve succumbed to dehydration.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146896 posts
Posted on 7/3/21 at 7:33 pm to
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NBC 6 South Florida @nbc6
Miami-Dade Assistant Fire Chief Raide Jadallah told family members that rescuers stopped their search at about 4 p.m., when demolition crews began boring holes into the concrete of the still-standing portion of Champlain Towers South in Surfside.


ETA: since they're boring holes into concrete... I guess they're going with implosion instead of wrecking ball to take down the rest of the building

this is absolutely small potatoes... and believe me I absolutely know and understand why... but it still kinda sucks the residents of the still standing portion won't be able to save some important items (pictures/documents/heirlooms) before their home is dropped to the ground
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11595 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:11 am to
Demolition set for Sunday night (tonight)
Presser at 1:30pm this afternoon to announce specific time.

They may have let folks into the lower floors, but I agree, that we have to really feel for the survivors who will see their lives blown up and find themselves left with their pajamas, and darned little else to remember this part of their lives.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15922 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:27 am to

The death toll was up to 24, with 120 unaccounted for, when they halted the recovery in order to start preparing for the demo.

Just so sad and crazy. Hopefully the 'unaccounted for' numbers don't come to fruition and it's not 144 total dead

Prayers to all the families who were effected by this, especially those waiting in limbo with no closure yet
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5092 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:47 am to
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Just so sad and crazy. Hopefully the 'unaccounted for' numbers don't come to fruition and it's not 144 total dead


I don't see how it doesn't at this point though. Maybe at best there's some wacky resident that is using the event as an opportunity to walk away / fake their death.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33031 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 12:09 pm to
No way they just find out 144 people have been missing for weeks and suddenly appear. That building flattened like a pancake, those people are dead. Prayers for them and their families, probably a terrible way to go
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