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Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:58 pm to HouseMom
At this point anything is possible, but if this is the case.. Hypothetical here. How would they handle it? Would they just up and kidnap her and make sure she is never heard from again? Or would there be a message sent to Savannah. Something that would let her know what happened to her mother was a result of "messing with the wrong people"?
Knowing that she did something that was part of her job led to her mother being kidnapped and killed is something that would be with her the rest of her life.
It seems like it would be risky for them to do and isn't anything the royal family would want to be associated with doing... if it was indeed traced back to them.
Knowing that she did something that was part of her job led to her mother being kidnapped and killed is something that would be with her the rest of her life.
It seems like it would be risky for them to do and isn't anything the royal family would want to be associated with doing... if it was indeed traced back to them.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:15 pm to OweO
I've seen a couple of stories online today (maybe from the same source) saying that Savannah is considering leaving the Today Show. Whether it's a temporary leave of absence or permanent I guess is to be determined.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:34 pm to Tridentds
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You didn't say how far you travel into Mexico but I can also tell you if you drive more than 15 minutes or so into the country from the border they are going to be looking for U.S. license plates without a car permit. You absolutely cannot get a car permit without your passport and without making copies of your passport.
I never took my US car outside of the immediate border area, I actually don't think you can without certain plates. Would either rent a car or ride in one of the Mexican worker's cars. They allegedly have scanners and license plate readers at all the ports of entry, and I've seen the guards "doing inspections" but who knows if they actually work or are being monitored.
I tried to give my passport to an INM worker walking across the first time I walked across and he looked at me like I was crazy. I think the only time I got asked for my passport was trying to cross back into the US and they were asking if I had made money in MX that day that I needed to report.
If they drove into MX at like 3 AM with this lady and switched to a MX plated car, she is long gone.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:36 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
What's shocking in the Sheriff's latest comments is that the glove found and the foreign DNA of her house are not the same... So the glove is likely some random persons and not related to the case.
We had heard they were the same profile, but he confirmed they are not.
We had heard they were the same profile, but he confirmed they are not.
Posted on 2/17/26 at 11:07 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 2/18/26 at 6:41 am to HouseMom
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A robbery-gone-wrong with a kidnapped grandma makes no sense, but a kidnapping for ransom with these people actually does.
You have this arse-backwards. A robbery gone wrong with a “”kidnapped grandma” makes plenty of sense since the grandma was the only person in the house to witness it. She either died that night and they “kidnapped” her body or they didn’t find what they were looking for and the “kidnapping” was an impromptu change of plans to either try to get something after they’d already committed several felonies or they just wanted to get rid of the witness.
Y’all are way too hung up on the “grandma” part. They would have done the same thing if it was a 40-year-old woman living alone, assuming it wasn’t a random burglary, they thought there was something valuable in the house, and they knew only 1 person lived there who would likely be easily controlled with a firearm.
A kidnapping for ransom with “these people” is what makes no sense. If they were trying to get Samantha’s money or psychologically hurt or torture her, why not kidnap her children. She’s got 2, 11 and 9, I think.
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The truth of the matter is that Savannah Guthrie's husband is named in the Epstein files and worked for Bill Clinton.
Jesus Christ, you people. There were thousands of people named in the Epstein files. And what the frick does him working for Bill Clinton have to do with anything? Of all the people named in the files, they pick this dude? And their way of “getting him,” is to kidnap his 84-year-old mother-in-law and bring unnecessary attention to him? I’d think they’d prefer to NOT bring attention to him at all and try to sweep whatever involvement he had under the rug.
But you seem like a wackadoo conspiracy theorist who thinks the 80-year-old Clintons still have the juice to murder people. To what end would they want to frick with this particular dude, I don’t know. Again, it’s just brought more attention to him. But for the sake of argument, I’ll concede they do. Why not just fricking kill HIM to shut him up? Why frick around with his mother-in-law?
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She was also instrumental in ruining Prince Albert by interviewing the victims.
lol. Oh no, a former reporter and current Today Show host and interviewer interviewed victims of Prince Albert. She wasn’t instrumental in ruining him, he did a fine job of doing that himself way before Samantha Guthrie entered the picture. And nobody gives a shite about him
anyway. The royal family doesn’t give a shite about him. He’s a huge embarrassment to them, and they stripped him of all his titles.
They wish he’d go away. They’d kill him way before they even contemplated doing anything to some American daytime talkshow host who interviewed some of his victims. She wasn’t the only one who interviewed those girls. And the most damning interview for him was the one he did himself where he looked like an absolute imbecile talking about how he was unable to sweat. They are not going to waste any resources and the potential of getting found out by kidnapping Samantha Guthrie’s fricking mom. They are just gong to continue to pretend he doesn’t exist until he dies, like they have been for years now.
Perhaps the Guthries are “connected.” But so are 1,000 other people related to the Epstein situation, and those people are MUCH, MUCH higher on the list of importance. And every single one of them want this to go away as quickly and quietly as possible. Kidnapping Samatha Guthrie’s mom just makes absolutely zero sense relative to anything Epstein related.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 6:46 am to Hot Carl
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 6:59 am to Hot Carl
My questioning about the kidnapping theory is no ransom unless the people that sent the initial ransom letter to TMZ and the news stations are legit.
IMO, with the amount of money these people have access to I would roll the dice and give the latest inform the one Bitcoin to see if he really knows who the kidnappers are. The FBI and police are probably spending more than that each day in the search and investigation.
IMO, with the amount of money these people have access to I would roll the dice and give the latest inform the one Bitcoin to see if he really knows who the kidnappers are. The FBI and police are probably spending more than that each day in the search and investigation.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:02 am to Hot Carl
This is prime example of why I started to believe Epstein stuff wasn’t what people were saying.
Trying to tie this kidnapping to Epstein is the same type of bs that has muddied the entire thing. It’s just people in the internet making shite up.
Trying to tie this kidnapping to Epstein is the same type of bs that has muddied the entire thing. It’s just people in the internet making shite up.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 7:34 am to dgnx6
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Trying to tie this kidnapping to Epstein is the same type of bs that has muddied the entire thing.
Definitely not Epstein. Savannah and her mom were partying with the Obamas at The Diddy freak-offs.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 8:02 am to Lsut81
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Sunday, Feb. 1
1:47 a.m. — The doorbell camera is disconnected.
2:12 a.m. — Camera software detects movement, but there is no video available
If this is true, how do they have footage of the retard wearing the gun over his weiner?
This shite has US Gov't written all over it.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:46 am to terriblegreen
Seems like this was a random break-in and likely Ms. Guthrie expired during the event. They took her to hid her remains. Sad to say, but that is probably what is going on here.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:58 am to Hot Carl
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But you seem like a wackadoo conspiracy theorist
Again, the entire point of me mentioning the Clintons, Epstein, and Prince Andrew pages earlier was because some on here had never even heard of Savannah Guthrie, even some who claim to be "very" into politics.
I just think it's interesting how connected they are. This is not just some random lady with who her family is. THAT IS ALL.
Now Hot Carl, what is your hot take on the case? The police, FBI, and Captain America don't know either, so please enlighten them so this family can have some peace.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:38 am to terriblegreen
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1:47 a.m. — The doorbell camera is disconnected.
2:12 a.m. — Camera software detects movement, but there is no video available
2:28 a.m. — Guthrie's pacemaker app disconnects from her phone.
If this is true, how do they have footage of the retard wearing the gun over his weiner
If doorbell camera was battery powered or had a battery backup it may have just picked up random movement when it was still in range of the WiFi including them getting out of vehicle to enter the house or even when deciding to break it (I can’t remember if it was found on the property or not). I would think that they wouldn’t have immediately broken in right after taking the camera because alerts or notifications can be set up to display on phone that someone is at your door regardless of ringing the bell. It’s just a matter of whether they will wake a person up if they are set to show an alert/notification on phone.
Probably waited to see if any activity in the house after disconnecting camera or waited for the person who was actually going to enter the house. Then some of their movement or movement of the doorbell camera was registered due to camera connecting to the WiFi. Whatever movement it was the camera was not connected by the door as it had been.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 11:11 am to FreddieMac
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Seems like this was a random break-in and likely Ms. Guthrie expired during the event. They took her to hid her remains.
From what I remember nothing was stolen. I struggle to see random break-in perp(s) after realizing they killed a elderly lady decide not only to not take anything to avoid being traced with that much heat on the situation but also to make it look like a missing person or kidnapping event to cover up that they were there to steal something. That would be a smarter reaction than I think a random thief is going to display in this situation. It also seems like a “professional” crew or perp would have handled the camera situation better.
The other issue is exactly what the pacemaker was reporting when disconnected from phone or watch. Initial reports seemed to read like she was alive when it disconnected due to distance from phone or watch left at her house, but that may have changed or if that can be seen from what it reports to app on phone.
Regardless they had a 9 1/2 hour head start before cops involved and even longer before the sheriff’s plane was up. If she was alive or already dead when they took her from the house she or her body could be far away from where they were focused initially and also where they were mostly focused on in the days and first week after her disappearance.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:19 pm to Stat M Repairman
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There's more circumstantial evidence supporting an Epstein connection than there is any other theory.
No, just frick no. There is no evidence supporting an Epstein connection, circumstantial or otherwise. At all. frick.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:23 pm to Hot Carl
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If tweet fails to load, click here. This is getting a little ridiculous. TMZ coming off smug like they’ve always been. Building up drama for clicks. It’s sickening.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:20 pm to SWLA92
Full details when you tune in...
I'm sure (or at least hope) TMZ is sharing fully and immediately with law enforcement, but that tweet is cringe worthy.
The every day item in your refrigerator that could kill you. Details tonight at 11.
I'm sure (or at least hope) TMZ is sharing fully and immediately with law enforcement, but that tweet is cringe worthy.
The every day item in your refrigerator that could kill you. Details tonight at 11.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:48 pm to PJinAtl
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Full details when you tune in...
Yup, after 2 days ago claiming they wouldn't discuss anything they received in the future bc it was a distraction...
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