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re: SCOTUS ruling: state bans on trans “care” for minors is constitutional

Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:32 am to
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Do whatever you want once you're an adult. In fact, cut your hair differently and wear different clothes as a minor if you really want. But you can't do permanent, life-altering physical changes to minors. Outrageous this is even a discussion.


This is my position on it as well.

Another way to think about it is this...it is illegal for children's privates to be touched by an adult in a sexual manner and children cannot consent to sex with an adult (ie using their privates for their intended purpose), why should it be legal for an adult to cut those privates off or render them sterile?
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:45 am
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2519 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:40 am to
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Sotomayor is an oxygen thief:


Has there ever been a levelheaded female justice? Even Amy is turning into a mistake. At this point the court should be male only just to remove emotion form decision making.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
38651 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:41 am to
Thank God. Let screwed up adults do whatever to their own bodies but protect children who lack the maturity to make such life altering decisions from doing permanent harm to themselves.

It’s no different than a myriad of other age limited constraints in our society.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155912 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:43 am to
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a stunning setback to transgender rights.

But a stunning victory for human rights, especially children.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
73868 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:46 am to
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The Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming care for transgender minors,
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a stunning setback to transgender rights.
Misspelled "loonies"
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
36329 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:46 am to
We were told that people just need to think they are the opposite sex and it becomes truth, so what rights were set back? They have not outlawed man's ability to think and say he is a woman.

ETA: It could also be said the pro-trans crowd is trying to eliminate the gay and lesbian population. Nowadays an effeminate dude is told he's a trans woman and should transition.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57604 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:49 am to
Obamacare can ban tanning beds for minors but state can't ban transgender surgeries for minors
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107075 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:50 am to
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Second, contrary to the representations of the United States and the private plaintiffs,
there is no medical consensus on how best to treat gender
dysphoria in children.


I mean, there is. It just isn't irreversible medical procedures. It's utilizing psychosocial support instead.

I hate the use of gender-affirming care as specific to transgender folks as well in legislation as it results in bans on care that is needed at times. For instance, working with a female client who has had a mastectomy (due to breast cancer) on her confidence and self-worth in still identifying as a woman post-surgery is gender-affirming care.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130719 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:53 am to
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I hate the use of gender-affirming care as specific to transgender folks as well in legislation as it results in bans on care that is needed at times.

Yep, cisgender people use it as well.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92658 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:53 am to
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working with a female client who has had a mastectomy (due to breast cancer) on her confidence and self-worth in still identifying as a woman post-surgery is gender-affirming care.


besides being an adult and not a kid, those 2 words in bold disagree with what they're trying to pull with 'gender affirming'.

its about changing someone's real sex to something they're not
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92658 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:54 am to
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cisgender


y'all are some mentally ill people
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5823 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:58 am to
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by Liberal you mean like ACB or John Roberts?


Correct, or some would say compromised by their visits to Epstein Island.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
36329 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:58 am to
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Yep, cisgender people use it as well.


My pronouns are straight and alpha, please respect them.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76809 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:02 am to
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I mean, there is. It just isn't irreversible medical procedures. It's utilizing psychosocial support instead.
You are correct, and for some odd reason, this is the ONLY psychiatric condition where people believe that affirmation is the appropriate treatment.

Why don’t we tell schizophrenics that their delusions are real?
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I hate the use of gender-affirming care as specific to transgender folks as well in legislation as it results in bans on care that is needed at times. For instance, working with a female client who has had a mastectomy (due to breast cancer) on her confidence and self-worth in still identifying as a woman post-surgery is gender-affirming care.
No, it isn’t gender-affirming care.

Just as how breast augmentation isn’t gender-affirming care.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130719 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:06 am to
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y'all are some mentally ill people

You have no clue of what this term means if this is your response. Vast majority of people would be considered as cisgender.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107075 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:07 am to
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You are correct, and for some odd reason, this is the ONLY psychiatric condition where people believe that affirmation is the appropriate treatment.

Why don’t we tell schizophrenics that their delusions are real?


That's a fair argument. I don't disagree. My larger concern is addressing the comorbid disorders that run along with gender dysphoria (anxiety, depression, etc).

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No, it isn’t gender-affirming care.

Just as how breast augmentation isn’t gender-affirming care.


From a psych perspective, affirming someone's gender and addressing when they feel in conflict with that gender is gender-affirming (as I described) care. So the situation I described is.

The issue is legislation utilizes gender-affirming care in a really general sense that limits usage for appropriate folks.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
35334 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:08 am to
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Vast majority of people would be considered as cisgender.


Mentally-ill people say cisgender, everyone else says normal
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
92658 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:09 am to
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You have no clue of what this term means if this is your response. Vast majority of people would be considered as cisgender.


its a made up word y'all came up with a few years back to describe normal people.

but keep on using it; that will make it stick.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2444 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:12 am to
which is why it is superfluous language. We aren't chemical bonds.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74244 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:13 am to
‘cisgender’

Is made-up term intended to make normal sound like a subset. It’s just linguistic sleight of hand: invent a new word, retroactively assign it to the majority, and pretend it’s always been a thing.

c on z and the LBTQLMNOP+ people can keep playing make-believe if they want, but shouldn’t expect the rest of us to play along.
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