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Self-counseling advice
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:59 pm
TLDR.
For those of you who are in it, going through it, or don't know how to get through it, I want to sincerely share some things that I have learned. After all, we are just outside of January -- the biggest filings for divorce month of the entire year.
Yes, it's the OT and almost everyone in here has life figured out, doesn't need or believe in counseling, and makes six figures. But in case you're that anomoly, maybe this might help you. And while your experience(s) are going to be different than mine, perhaps there is something in here that might help or resonate.
For a long time, I tried to "sales-pitch" my way out of a failing marriage. I was operating out of pure fear — scared of the distance and terrified of the silence because I grew up in a house where silence was never a good sign. There was constant yelling, and physical violence. My parents, rest in peace, did the best they could, but their marriage was broken and I wanted to do whatever I could to "fix" mine -- without yelling or violence --- and quickly. I was so uncomfortable at being uncomfortable.
My counselor finally gave me the reality check I needed. He told me: "If you break your leg, it doesn't matter how much you love riding your bike; that activity just isn't available to you right now. You have to heal first. It was then that I realized I was trying to ride a bike on a broken leg.
I also learned that I was trying to control the narrative instead of listening to understand her reality. I was listening to respond. And I didn't listen because I was scared --- and I wasn't ready to change. I deflected and redirected, which in turn, felt and looked a lot like manipulation. It took reaching a point of total mental exhaustion for me to finally stop talking and start truly listening.
I had to learn to be still. From someone who suffered greatly with anxiety, that was not an easy thing to do. It’s in the silence — the "not doing" — that I actually started to understand her perspective -- and started to really understand people. My overall relationships with people have become so much better because I actually listen today. And I have mastered and conquered anxiety today, which is nothing more than fear, deep rooted.
I learned to go "into my camp" and do the work privately. It’s not about convincing her or anyone I’ve changed; it’s about actually changing and letting the results speak for themselves. There's no lobbying. No campaigning. If they want to see it or acknowledge it, they will. Or if they want to ignore it, they will. Doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, you will become a better version of yourself for yourself.
I’m practicing patience now. Not the kind of patience where you’re just waiting for your turn to speak, but the kind where you sit in the discomfort and let the healing happen at its own pace.
For those of you in the thick of it ... You can’t blow out a fire while you're still pouring gas on it. My 'gas' was the need to control the narrative and the fear of the silence. I had to stop talking and let the fire burn out before I could see what was left to rebuild. If you want peace, stop lobbying and start listening. Do the work for yourself, not for the audience, and let the results speak for themselves.
We are all broken to some degree. Some of us are just better at hiding the cracks than others. Get in your own camp, do the work for yourself, and let the results follow.
Become the best version of yourself -- it will serve you well, even if your marriage is over and reconciliation and restoration are not on the table. Because life goes on, and hopefully for all of us, there is still a lot of life left to live -- and love.
For those of you who are in it, going through it, or don't know how to get through it, I want to sincerely share some things that I have learned. After all, we are just outside of January -- the biggest filings for divorce month of the entire year.
Yes, it's the OT and almost everyone in here has life figured out, doesn't need or believe in counseling, and makes six figures. But in case you're that anomoly, maybe this might help you. And while your experience(s) are going to be different than mine, perhaps there is something in here that might help or resonate.
For a long time, I tried to "sales-pitch" my way out of a failing marriage. I was operating out of pure fear — scared of the distance and terrified of the silence because I grew up in a house where silence was never a good sign. There was constant yelling, and physical violence. My parents, rest in peace, did the best they could, but their marriage was broken and I wanted to do whatever I could to "fix" mine -- without yelling or violence --- and quickly. I was so uncomfortable at being uncomfortable.
My counselor finally gave me the reality check I needed. He told me: "If you break your leg, it doesn't matter how much you love riding your bike; that activity just isn't available to you right now. You have to heal first. It was then that I realized I was trying to ride a bike on a broken leg.
I also learned that I was trying to control the narrative instead of listening to understand her reality. I was listening to respond. And I didn't listen because I was scared --- and I wasn't ready to change. I deflected and redirected, which in turn, felt and looked a lot like manipulation. It took reaching a point of total mental exhaustion for me to finally stop talking and start truly listening.
I had to learn to be still. From someone who suffered greatly with anxiety, that was not an easy thing to do. It’s in the silence — the "not doing" — that I actually started to understand her perspective -- and started to really understand people. My overall relationships with people have become so much better because I actually listen today. And I have mastered and conquered anxiety today, which is nothing more than fear, deep rooted.
I learned to go "into my camp" and do the work privately. It’s not about convincing her or anyone I’ve changed; it’s about actually changing and letting the results speak for themselves. There's no lobbying. No campaigning. If they want to see it or acknowledge it, they will. Or if they want to ignore it, they will. Doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, you will become a better version of yourself for yourself.
I’m practicing patience now. Not the kind of patience where you’re just waiting for your turn to speak, but the kind where you sit in the discomfort and let the healing happen at its own pace.
For those of you in the thick of it ... You can’t blow out a fire while you're still pouring gas on it. My 'gas' was the need to control the narrative and the fear of the silence. I had to stop talking and let the fire burn out before I could see what was left to rebuild. If you want peace, stop lobbying and start listening. Do the work for yourself, not for the audience, and let the results speak for themselves.
We are all broken to some degree. Some of us are just better at hiding the cracks than others. Get in your own camp, do the work for yourself, and let the results follow.
Become the best version of yourself -- it will serve you well, even if your marriage is over and reconciliation and restoration are not on the table. Because life goes on, and hopefully for all of us, there is still a lot of life left to live -- and love.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:01 pm to Will Cover
Good insight and perspective, buddy.

This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:04 pm to Will Cover
I learned to just let go. It doesn’t have to be one way or another it just has to be. If you are with the one you love there are no wrong answers.
just relax, everything is going to be ok
just relax, everything is going to be ok
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:05 pm to Will Cover
Here's some advice. Not everybody has made dumbass decisions like you and married a stupid broad and actually procreated with one like you.
Why don't you save that shite for someone who actually gives a frick about your life story instead of being an attention begging arse little frick boy
Why don't you save that shite for someone who actually gives a frick about your life story instead of being an attention begging arse little frick boy
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:09 pm to Have A Downvote
Have a down vote, pal.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:11 pm to cgrand
quote:
I learned to just let go. It doesn’t have to be one way or another it just has to be. If you are with the one you love there are no wrong answers.
just relax, everything is going to be ok
The okay part really resonates with me. My counselor who has never been married and doesn't have kids used to tell me all the time, "everything is going to be okay."
I would walk out of the counseling session thinking, "how in the world does this person know it's going to be okay when they haven't been married, have kids, going through a divorce, starting over, etc.?"
Turns out, they were right. It wasn't until many sessions later that they said, "I know you thought I was crazy and I know you were probably pissed off at me when I told you that you were going to be okay." I said, yes, quite a few times, and there were several times I had honestly thought about quitting you and either finding someone else, or just stop counseling altogether.
But something inside my head said, "what if you are right?" They then proceded to tell me what they meant. They said, "you have your health, right?" "You have a job, right?" "You have a house, right?" "You have your children right?" And on and on ... example after example. And then they said, "you're going to be okay." Life may not have turned out how you thought it would go, but "you're going to be okay." And really from that moment forward, nearly 3 years ago, life is okay -- even after a divorce, losing one of my best friend's to cancer, having zero relationship with a sibling, and the passing of my mother and father. Life, is okay.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:12 pm to Have A Downvote
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This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:12 pm to Dataman88
quote:I know right. Haha
What a fricking a-hole.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:12 pm to Have A Downvote
quote:
Have A Downvote
quote:
Here's some advice. Not everybody has made dumbass decisions like you and married a stupid broad and actually procreated with one like you.
Why don't you save that shite for someone who actually gives a frick about your life story instead of being an attention begging arse little frick boy
Bless your heart, keyboard warrior. I'll pray for you.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:14 pm to Will Cover
Thanks for sharing my friend
I hope you are doing well
I always enjoy our conversations
I hope you are doing well
I always enjoy our conversations
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:15 pm to Gorilla Ball
quote:
Thanks for sharing my friend
I hope you are doing well
I always enjoy our conversations
Same!
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:15 pm to Will Cover
quote:Same bro. Sounds like you need it...
I'll pray for you.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:15 pm to Have A Downvote
You're so tough, bitch boy
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:15 pm to Have A Downvote
quote:
Here's some advice. Not everybody has made dumbass decisions like you and married a stupid broad and actually procreated with one like you. Why don't you save that shite for someone who actually gives a frick about your life story instead of being an attention begging arse little frick boy
If you’re going to troll, at least be good at it. You can’t force it. A great troll must be natural, and this thread isn’t really the place for it.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:17 pm to Will Cover
Good post.
This really hit home.
quote:
. I was so uncomfortable at being uncomfortable.
This really hit home.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:17 pm to TexasTiger08
quote:I wasn't trolling I actually meant that shite
If you’re going to troll, at least be good at it. You can’t force it. A great troll must be natural, and this thread isn’t really the place for it.
What the frick is this... group therapy?
JFC
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:18 pm to Will Cover
You’ve had some tender moments on here as you’ve gone through it Will, I’ve related to a lot of it and I’m pulling for you, man.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:19 pm to Will Cover
quote:
I was so uncomfortable at being uncomfortable.
I see some similarities with what I dealt with, this being the biggest. The actions of my ex actually made my recovery time quicker than most, but it was also compounded with the birth of my first child.
There comes a time when it’s important to embrace the uncomfortable. I’m still not there. I recognize that will take some time.
Your advice is great. It’s important to never stop learning about ourselves.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 5:01 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:27 pm to TexasTiger08
Did you have a good cry recently?
This is what y'all get for fricking with stupid floozies and not choosing wisely.
Take some responsibility for your situation.
fricking around having children in your early 20's and shite.
Who the frick raised y'all? Haha
This is what y'all get for fricking with stupid floozies and not choosing wisely.
Take some responsibility for your situation.
fricking around having children in your early 20's and shite.
Who the frick raised y'all? Haha
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:29 pm
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