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re: SpaceX to shift focus from mars to building a “city” on the Moon

Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:31 am to
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:31 am to
I'll stay here. Send me a postcard when you arrive.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:33 am to
The achievements of Elon Musk pale in comparison to what JasonDBlaha has achieved
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:35 am to
TIL people get really mad when you talk about things Musk is trying to accomplish

Yes, he routinely over promises and under delivers on his grand proclamations. So what?

I'd rather big dreamers that actually produce things
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:40 am to
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Which is Musk is going to have satellite relays between the earth moon and mars all they way through.




What did this have to do with the post you were responding to lmao
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:45 am to
A space elevator is much easier to do on the moon for the same reason.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:47 am to
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people get really mad when you talk about things Musk is trying to accomplish


I don’t get mad. I just wonder how of what he's talking about is actually technically feasible (given physical restraints).

I get dreaming big (altho I'm not very good at it). I also understand the basic limitations of science and the universe as we know and understand it.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:50 am to
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I also understand the basic limitations of science and the universe as we know and understand it.


And the things we once thought unachievable, through endeavoring to do impossible things, become achievable.

I seriously doubt in our lifetimes there will be a "city" on Mars. But I look forward to what advancements come with trying to achieve it.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:59 am to
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And the things we once thought unachievable, through endeavoring to do impossible things, become achievable.


Great. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m not talking about ambition or vision. I’m talking about what’s actually possible given the laws of physics and the physical constraints of the universe. For example, and a reference to our conversation before, no matter how ambitious you are, you can't change the speed of light.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:01 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:40 am to
In all honesty I have far more trust in Elon getting to the moon in any meaningful way long before NASA does, for like 1/10th of the cost.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:48 am to
A space elevator is much easier to do on the moon for the same reason.
---imagine getting stuck on the 10,346th floor
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:57 am to
Tell me what about the moon makes it special for AI potential
Lower average ambient air temperature in certain regions allows for easier cooling using less infrastructure to provide the cooling.

Lack of atmosphere to block solar radiation makes solar power more efficient.

Lack of existing civilization makes it easier to build the large data warehouse facilities without encroaching on private property or straining an existing municipal power grid.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Lower average ambient air temperature in certain regions allows for easier cooling using less infrastructure to provide the cooling.


The problem with that statement is this. Those areas where they are lower "air" temperatures are on the dark side of the moon. The areas that receive sunlight, where you would need to generate solar power, have ambient temps of up to 250 Deg F, or hotter than boiling water.

This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 12:02 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:10 pm to
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In all honesty I have far more trust in Elon getting to the moon in any meaningful way long before NASA does, for like 1/10th of the cost.

Meh. This shift has a whole lot more to do with NASA/the Trump Admin announcing that they will not wait on one company to get back to the moon. They've threatened to give the lunar lander deal to another company, and SpaceX has already taken $3 Billion in government contract funding for that project.
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:16 pm to
Has helium six been discussed?

The search results focus on Helium-3 (\(\text{He}^{3}\)) on the Moon, a valuable isotope found in the lunar regolith, rather than Helium-6. Based on the provided information, here are the key details regarding lunar helium resources: Abundance and Source: The Moon contains an estimated 1 million metric tons of Helium-3, which has been deposited by solar winds over billions of years.Purpose: It is highly valued as a potential fuel for clean, non-radioactive nuclear fusion on Earth. It is also used in quantum computing and medical imaging.
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
2290 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:59 pm to
This dude definitely drives a Tesla and is pissed every day because Musk hoodwinked him on political views and climate change.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15135 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:00 pm to
Yes it has gravity.

My point was comparatively speaking to us its effectively zero.

Much easier and less force needed to escape what little gravity is present.

Thanks Mr Semantics for your addition to the conversation.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25805 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:33 pm to
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Will be interesting to see how they address the radiation challenge.


Our moon has a great deal of material already up there to shield people though it probably means a lot of space under the surface.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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95188 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:42 pm to
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My point was comparatively speaking to us its effectively zero.


No one who uses "math" or cares about precision (much less space travel) would round down 1/6 or 16.6% to zero.

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Thanks Mr Semantics




Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
6927 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:03 pm to
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Our moon has a great deal of material already up there to shield people though it probably means a lot of space under the surface.


Yeah I think a lot of people underestimate how much future coordination there will be between elons companies. He has a boring/tunneling company. Battery, vehicle and robot company. Space company.

Hmmmm space company’s goes, drops off mining and boring equipment and robots. They build sublunar or submartian facilities. Things are all set before a human has to spend more than a day there.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32300 posts
Posted on 2/9/26 at 3:09 pm to
How long do we think humans can live on another rock that has a fraction of the gravity of Earth before they begin to experience adverse health effects?
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