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The difference between two rock solid atheists.

Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:50 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7718 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 7:50 am
One is a person that is clearly an unpleasant person that would be very difficult to be around. That would be Dave Farina, known as Professor Dave Explains on YouTube.

The other is Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller. You can just tell what an all around good and caring person he is.

Look at the two completely different world views and how each treat their fellow human beings.

First is an interview in print with Professor Dave. Check his demeanor.

After the link is a sound bite with Penn Jillette on a believer giving him a bible and his reaction.

My ‘debate’ with Professor Dave







Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2149 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:01 am to
One’s beliefs does not determine their dispositions or how they treat people. You could find this spectrum in any belief system. For most people, a belief system is shallow, or an identity marker to defend.

One of the biggest arguments against Christianity is that Christian are scripturally said to be more fruitful, and on average they are not more than anyone else, and by their own definition.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
4245 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:17 am to
Most atheists seem to turn the corner into anti-theists for some reason.

At least towards the beliefs they can get away with being assholes towards. Never towards the ones that will kill you for disbelief.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138321 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:21 am to
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The other is Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller. You can just tell what an all around good and caring person he is.


Seriously? His entire career is being a magician and lying to you in front of your face without you even recognizing it.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2149 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:28 am to
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Most atheists seem to turn the corner into anti-theists for some reason.


I’ve consumed a lot of this content, and I can’t stand to listen to people like Matt Dillahunty. Despite his great arguments, and delivery, his vitriol is repulsive. And the opposite is what draws me to someone like William Lane Craig, who seems so happy even when discussing the slaughtering of the amalokites
Posted by Power-Dome
Member since Nov 2012
1238 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:28 am to
Thank you for highlighting the good that can exist in our world.

If the tables were turned, I would have a hard time offering the same grace to an atheist. This is internally conflicting.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32129 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:29 am to
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Most atheists seem to turn the corner into anti-theists for some reason. At least towards the beliefs they can get away with being assholes towards. Never towards the ones that will kill you for disbelief.

It’s observation bias. You don’t notice the ones who don’t.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
11201 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:32 am to
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William Lane Craig


Had lunch with him in Eger, Hungary
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 8:34 am
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32816 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:35 am to
Do you have the same view towards actors and professional wrestlers?

Penn Jillette is trying to entertain at his magic show. He’s not trying to convince you that he is clairvoyant or actually able to do the impossible.
Posted by Pistols Firing 12
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2016
1105 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 8:36 am to
Man it’s tough to watch and listen to someone who’s heart is hardened against God like that.

He is right though, if you truly believe in Jesus, you should be spreading the word unashamedly.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42171 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:05 am to
Truth cuts like a two edged sword
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23576 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:17 am to

Penn Gilette has said that if you’re a Christian and you’re not spreading the gospel, you’re either a liar or you hate everybody and don’t care that they’ll spend eternity in hell.

So he’s grateful when Christians try to proselytize with him. They care.
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
168 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:48 am to
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Most atheists seem to turn the corner into anti-theists for some reason.



Atheism is a solo pursuit. Anti-theism is not. Humans naturally want to form, maintain and expand their groups. Believers obviously do the same. We believers are at cross purposes with them. Consequently we both see the other group as intolerable jerks.

I can give them a pass for their effort and their opinion of us. But make no mistake, I dont want them to have any governmental power over me and mine.
Posted by ColdDuck
BR via da Parish
Member since Sep 2006
2984 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:02 am to
I wish everyone would just keep their beliefs and politics to themselves unless I ask you about it. Your sexual identity as well. The world would be a better place.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
6591 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:18 am to
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His entire career is being a magician and lying to you in front of your face without you even recognizing it.


Have you ever seen Penn and Teller perform? Their whole schtick is that they are upfront to the audience that they are doing illusions. Yes, they are still fooling you, but they don't make bullshite claims about their tricks.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16188 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:26 am to
For every one who is an arse hole about it there's a dozen who dgaf enough about it to make a big deal of it
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22671 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:46 am to
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Thank you for highlighting the good that can exist in our world.

If the tables were turned, I would have a hard time offering the same grace to an atheist.

Why? Especially if he wasn't of the a-hole variety?

I think Jillette hit it right on the mark with the runaway truck analogy. The reason a Christian would talk to someone else about their faith would be out of kindness / concern over their future.

I've never had an atheist attempt to convert me, but if one wanted to try why wouldn't you welcome the conversation? It would be the ideal opportunity to explain your beliefs to him and / or answer any questions. Of course if you can't do it from the Bible it doesn't carry much weight.

I could be wrong on this but I think most atheists are actually agnostic, not being completely closed to the idea of a Creator / Higher Being but needing convincing evidence. That's where a Christian's ability to use secular history along with the Bible to reason with them and vise versa to hear their reasons why they think there isn't one.

Anyway great video. Glad to see something positive this morning.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
130262 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:49 am to
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One of the biggest arguments against Christianity is that Christian are scripturally said to be more fruitful, and on average they are not more than anyone else, and by their own definition.


Hispanic christians are fruitful AF
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13501 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:55 am to
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Seriously? His entire career is being a magician and lying to you in front of your face without you even recognizing it.


Car salesmen sell cars knowing they are trying to get as much from you as possible, hence the "jew down" practice customers use to combat that. Do the practices of both the car salesmen and the car buyer give you insight into their beliefs? Both could be great human beings while at the same time trying to "win" over the other. Not every thing a person does is indicative of the person they are as a whole. And everyone does things they hide with the intention of you not recognizing they are doing it. His just happens to be his job.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7223 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 11:05 am to
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Seriously? His entire career is being a magician and lying to you in front of your face without you even recognizing it.


In other words, you have no fricking idea what you are talking about. His entire shtick is that he tells you that magic is bullshite.
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