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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:01 am to
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Cane farmers are the only ones making money in La (price supports).
Currently negotiating the sale of our family farm, returns since 2017 have been a bit over 2% gross. It’s strictly a financial decision for me and partners.


A lot of really good acreage south of Monroe has gone to solar because farming costs have increased to the point where even the support of ethanol mandates is starting to not be enough in some cases.

I've been reading about farmers who are turning to solar and raising livestock on the properties (to keep the land grazed and provide another revenue stream).
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:28 am to
Morehouse solar contract is $3mil per year if I remember correctly. It would take 5 life times to maybe return that number. Yields are higher than they have ever been and prices are lower.
I honestly don’t know how (our) farmers make the ends meet with equipment, labor & input cost.
Posted by Midtiger farm
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:33 am to
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People are complaining about private parties affecting the market and warning that their private conglomeration efforts are "socialism", and their proposed solution is....government coming into impact the market (which still applies if you "infrastructure" this as "national security issues"), which is ACTUAL socialism


So enforcing anti trust laws = socialism?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:45 am to
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Oh yeah, that strong French culture…
…with its 1.6 birth rate propped up by high muzzie rates


What’s your point?

The blind worship of the EU as better/healthier/fairer is built on a really shitty foundation of misunderstanding and mischaracterization.

We're one election away, and the Dutch get more out of their limited land than almost any country on Earth:
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"I don't know if that's what they want. When we talk about farming it's just stress. But I want them to have a choice, not for the government to make that choice for them."

Dutch government proposals for tackling nitrogen emissions indicate a radical cut in livestock - they estimate 11,200 farms will have to close and another 17,600 farmers will have to significantly reduce their livestock.

Other proposals include a reduction in intensive farming and the conversion to sustainable "green farms".

As such, the relocation or buyout of farmers is almost inevitable, but forced buyouts are a scenario many hope to avoid.

The cabinet has allocated €25bn (£20bn) to slicing nitrogen emissions within the farming industry by 2030, and the targets for specific areas and provinces have been laid out in a colour-coded map.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:53 am to
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As long as you couch it in terms of national security (which is a valid concern) and not that someone is entitled to a family farm.

Family farms are the backbone of rural America and the lifeblood of many small towns.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:56 am to
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In the last year, farm bankrupticies in Arkansas has doubled.

sweet , cheap land


Nope. Blackrock or some other investment group or a foreign investor will buy it at a price way higher than the typical American can afford.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:56 am to
Why are farmers always bitching about something?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:04 am to
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price way higher than the typical American can afford

Then buy less land and start small. Oh, that little land can't be profitable? Maybe you need to get together with a like minded group of buyers (investors) and form some sort of agreement (corporation) about how everyone can make money from your pooled investment.
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:31 am to
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Nope. Blackrock or some other investment group or a foreign investor will buy it at a price way higher than the typical American can afford.


You realize Blackrock has to make an ROI/ profit right? Corporate farms work by hiring out cheap labor, streamlining processes, buying in bulk, etc. But they still have to make a profit.

The main issue with farming is there’s a lot more to land costs than just farm land as it’s developed into homes, recreational land, etc.
Posted by junior
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:32 am to
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Cane farmers are the only ones making money in La (price supports)


So the rice/ crawfish guys don’t make a profit?
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:34 am to
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Family farms are the backbone of rural America and the lifeblood of many small towns.


What year is it? I’m all for the small time farmer, but this simply isn’t true. Small towns are dying.

This was the case when farmers all were on 200 acres, raised livestock, had gardens, etc. Now there’s plenty of ‘small town’ farmers running 1000s of acres with their own kids or farm hands helping. That’s not just a corporate sized farms, they are large family businesses.
Posted by glassart
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:37 am to
Updown Slow Frown is a troll with several alters.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:39 am to
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My dad is a cattle farmer. The last couple years are the best he’s ever done.

I wonder if the rise of the carnivore diet has any effect on his business.

I’ve been high protein for a couple of years now and have drifted into full-on carnivore.

I get all of my meat from a local source and I understand he is expanding his cattle business.

The source is Callaway’s health club, where he sells his meat for his members. It’s all grass fed, grass finished beef as natural as is possible for a Cattle ranch.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:49 am to
There are investment banks that sell shares in their farming operations.
1,000 acre farms were huge 20 years ago and now 10,000 acre farms have taken their place.
Rice/Crawfish guys aren’t making near the $$ this board thinks they are, their costs have gone up also.
In 8 years our share hasn’t increased much at all and some years it’s gone down. Unless your Gates/Whimpfree ect, owning farmland isn’t profitable.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:54 am to
The future of farming is to stop growing cuck plants like corn and soybeans. Let the food stampers eat their seed oil corn mystery meat slop grown by the corporations and let real farmers grow healthy crops for their own people

This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 10:07 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:57 am to
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What’s your point?

That it’s not a strong culture at all; that it is, in fact, self-immolating.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:34 am to
the most egregious part is sending money to foreign countries and all the middle men grifting in between. I don't think we necessarily need to help our farmers but I'm all for doing whatever humanly required to stop sending money to grifters. not many peaceful solutions.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:29 am to
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cheap land





Yea it doesn’t work that way anymore
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:31 am to
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Morehouse solar contract is $3mil per year if I remember correctly. It would take 5 life times to maybe return that number.


Wut

I can make that in two years farming 500 water acres of catfish
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:32 am to
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What year is it? I’m all for the small time farmer, but this simply isn’t true. Small towns are dying.


I'd love to see independent truck farming return instead of this institutional large scale corporate crap.
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