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re: What did people do before accurate hurricane tracking?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:32 am to fr33manator
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:32 am to fr33manator
I love how they embraced the fame
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:40 am to fr33manator
They walked outside and thought, "man, why the hell is this wind and rain blowing so fricking hard"
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:02 am to fr33manator
I went into a Ruddock and Frenier rabbit hole one day about the 1915 hurricane that destroyed both towns. Most of the people were killed when the church collapsed. The people who survived did so by laying down on the railroad tracks until the storm passed. I can’t imagine just laying there as everything crashes and flies around you.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:04 am to fr33manator
K&B tracking maps in elementary school
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:08 am to fr33manator
The Pitot House in New Orleans had/has an oil barometer on the back porch. When the oil would move up, pressure was dropping so I guess they knew some sort of storm was coming.
The oil barometer was invented in the 1640s.
The oil barometer was invented in the 1640s.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:15 am to fr33manator
I was always fascinated by storms
I would tune into the news and watch update which was usually Nash roberts who would draw on a board what he thought would happen.
His prediction for Betsy is what made him famous. He nailed it and it was a wild prediction /forecast.
I would tune into the news and watch update which was usually Nash roberts who would draw on a board what he thought would happen.
His prediction for Betsy is what made him famous. He nailed it and it was a wild prediction /forecast.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:23 am to fr33manator
My grandparents were from south Florida. They lived a mile from the Atlantic. I still have one of the maps they cut out of the newspaper to use to track storms. They'd hear reports from ships coming into Ft. Lauderdale and put stick pins in to track the storm. They would also watch the birds and other animals.
If a storm was coming, they'd close the shutters, barricade things as best they could, and gather in a local church which was on slightly higher ground and in a more substantial building than a frame house built in the 1920s.
Twice, storm surge floated their house, which was 4 feet off the ground, a block or two away. They hauled it back with mule teams. After the second time, my grandfather drove steel rods 16 feet into the ground and fastened the house to those rods.
The first time Europeans encountered hurricanes was with Columbus. He watched the birds and other animals and the water conditions and smartly took refuge. Not all early sailors (and some more contemporary ones, like Halsey) were that cautious.
If a storm was coming, they'd close the shutters, barricade things as best they could, and gather in a local church which was on slightly higher ground and in a more substantial building than a frame house built in the 1920s.
Twice, storm surge floated their house, which was 4 feet off the ground, a block or two away. They hauled it back with mule teams. After the second time, my grandfather drove steel rods 16 feet into the ground and fastened the house to those rods.
The first time Europeans encountered hurricanes was with Columbus. He watched the birds and other animals and the water conditions and smartly took refuge. Not all early sailors (and some more contemporary ones, like Halsey) were that cautious.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:26 am to SpotCheckBilly
They died? Isn’t that what happened to Galveston in the early 1900s.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:27 am to SpotCheckBilly
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The first time Europeans encountered hurricanes was with Columbus. He watched the birds and other animals and the water conditions and smartly took refuge. Not all early sailors (and some more contemporary ones, like Halsey) were that cautious.
This is always the part that has captured my imagination. How did those old sailors know what to do?
Hell even the Titanic in 1912 was designed to be unsinkable due to storms and rough seas (not iceburgs)
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:33 am to TopWaterTiger
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This is always the part that has captured my imagination. How did those old sailors know what to do?
They had storms in the Mediterranean and in the Atlantic waters that they traveled, so they knew something about big storms, but I think folks like Columbus were just very observant and cautious. Given that he made four trips to the area with no charts and having never been in a hurricane, you have to think that he is not given enough credit for being a pretty impressive sailor.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:44 am to fr33manator
People used what is called the radio.
Prior to that you were just shite out of luck.
Prior to that you were just shite out of luck.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:51 am to Bison
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I recent heard ( possibly on this site) that natives secured themselves to live oaks trees during storm surge.
This is true. They learned this from the Indians.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:03 am to GeauxTigers123
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They died? Isn’t that what happened to Galveston in the early 1900s.
I had family die from storms before 1930 in south east la.
My grandparents told me stories of them sitting on their porch in the afternoon, dark clouds looming and it just went south from there for hours. They’d use barometers to evaluate conditions. If it got below 1000 they’d move boats and loose items.
No forewarning at all.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:17 am to fr33manator
Watch or listen to Nash Roberts and take appropriate action. 
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:28 am to whoa
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Kids these days don’t know longitude & latitude cause they didn’t have to track hurricanes for a week straight on a K&B hurricane map
I was just thinking about this the other day, I remember tracking Isidore and Lilli when I was like 9 but never remember tracking any storms after that.
We must've got the Internet around then.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:34 am to SidewalkTiger
Same. They just disappeared overnight & I never thought about a hurricane tracking map again 
I would love to get my hands on one just to keep for nostalgia purposes. May even make my kid track them.
I would love to get my hands on one just to keep for nostalgia purposes. May even make my kid track them.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:38 am to SidewalkTiger
About the Galvestion 1900 storm and the Cuba connection, I don't like to cite Wiki, but what they have is a shorter version of something I read in a book.
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On September 4, the Weather Bureau's Galveston office began receiving warnings from the Bureau's central office in Washington, D.C., that a tropical disturbance had moved northward over Cuba. At the time, they discouraged the use of terms such as "hurricane" or "tornado" to avoid panicking residents in the path of any storm event. The Weather Bureau forecasters had no way of knowing the storm's trajectory, as Weather Bureau director Willis Moore implemented a policy to block telegraph reports from Cuban meteorologists at the Belen Observatory in Havana – considered one of the most advanced meteorological institutions in the world at the time – due to tensions in the aftermath of the Spanish–American War. Moore also changed protocol to force local Weather Bureau offices to seek authorization from the central office before issuing storm warnings.[11]
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:41 am to whoa
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Same. They just disappeared overnight & I never thought about a hurricane tracking map again
I would love to get my hands on one just to keep for nostalgia purposes. May even make my kid track them.
My grandmother used to have a really nice dry erase one, I think it was from WWL but I was like 9 so could be mistaken.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:48 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:00 am to fr33manator
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Would you just be sitting on your gulf coast porch when the surge started coming in and it was all you could do to get your family to the highest, strongest structure you knew, tie yourself down and pray?
This is exactly how it was.
I had a great great great Uncle that survived the storm that wiped out Caminadaville in the late 1800s. He was 5 at the time, I met him in the 80s before he died, he almost lived to a hundred.
His family home was 2 stories with an attic surrounded by oak trees, only house in the community like that. When the weather started turning and the tide started rising they went upstairs, then into the attic, the water made it to the attic, but not in it, after the storm once the water receded they came out, they discovered they had the only structure that didn’t wash away, there was nothing left of the community, hundreds died, it was never rebuilt.
It’s the area of marsh on the right just before you get to the Caminada Pass bridge to enter Gran Isle.
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