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re: What would you do if the grid went down.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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When water is gone, medical care non existent, food sources dwindling, banking shut down... chaos will be swift and widespread.
Just losing convenience will be enough to destroy a third of the population but with water and food in short supply, even the most prepared will fight for their lives.
A CME or Carrington Event would be the most likely scenario I think, we barely missed one in 2012.
water isnt that hard and most people can go a weeks without food.
but yes if its a solar flare or something like that, that somehow knocks out the grid across the globe for months...you would lose 50% minimum in 8 weeks.
eta...just did a little research...the last known huge carrington event happened in 1859. if one that large happened again, it is only estimated that the grid would be down for a few weeks and not across the whole world.
it would take a Miyake Event to do the whole world for months and we only know of one throughout history.
solar flare is estimated at only a couple weeks and not for the whole world
also with the way emp burst work...the grid safety features would start kicking in and keep much of the country from being fried
so what event outside of an appoclyptic plague are we losing power for 6+ months across the whole world??
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 10:21 am
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:17 am to wickowick
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Everyone always says they have a place to bug out and escape and gather food. Thousands of other people have those same spots in mind.
Set up some cisterns to collect rain water for boiling & drinking.
Fish & chill.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:19 am to Flashback
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When u guys that have a bug out spot like a hunting camp discover it's already occupied, what are u going to do
Pew pew
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:21 am to rickyh
If it was a mass power loss from an EMP or massive solar flare during the work week, most people will have a hard enough time just getting back home from work, getting kids from school and getting back with their loved ones. There will be no bugging out for the country side as no cars will work. The worst thing I could imagine is being stuck in a elevator. There will be thousands trapped with no one to help them.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:24 am to rickyh
Before, by default I’d haul arse out to the country where my folks live. But we live in small town and have natural gas and water which I assume would still operate, plus a generator that runs on NG. I’d probably be inclined to bring wife and kids to parents for safety but stay behind to keep an eye on our home.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:08 am to Havoc
Your ability to travel will likely be limited the amount of gas in your vehicle at the time this happens. Not to mention roadways will be blocked almost immediately by vehicles running out of gas, breaking down or wrecking.
So, you likely are stuck close to where you live. If you're in Wyoming, Dakotas, etc. you have a chance to live alone and off the land.
In any reasonably populated area like Louisiana or Mississippi, you're screwed. You think your supplies and guns give you an advantage. Instead it makes you a target. You think you can hide on 100 acres. The act of defending yourself would become exhausting and eventually a losing effort.
Your best chance would be quickly form a reasonably sized community. One that could work together to provide food, water and defense.
So, you likely are stuck close to where you live. If you're in Wyoming, Dakotas, etc. you have a chance to live alone and off the land.
In any reasonably populated area like Louisiana or Mississippi, you're screwed. You think your supplies and guns give you an advantage. Instead it makes you a target. You think you can hide on 100 acres. The act of defending yourself would become exhausting and eventually a losing effort.
Your best chance would be quickly form a reasonably sized community. One that could work together to provide food, water and defense.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:19 am to wickowick
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Everyone always says they have a place to bug out and escape and gather food. Thousands of other people have those same spots in mind.
That is likely true. If (and it is a big if given the distance), but IF I can get to mine I am really confident I will have it to myself or at least anyone else in the area will be like-minded and willing to form some sort of an alliance.
My spot is several miles and over 3,000 foot of elevation gain from any roads. The 3,000 feet of gain starts at about 8,600 climbs over a couple of ridges that top out at 10-11k feet and then drops into a valley a little under 7,000 feet. Winters will absolutely suck, but there is always running water even in the coldest of winter, trout in a small lake, elk, mule deer, grouse (yummy), wild asparagus, choke berry, wild goats, cattle, wild strawberries, wild plums, and a bunch of other scavangeable food.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:30 am to rickyh
I’ll do the same thing I always do.
Sit around in the dark with my shotgun waiting for the end to come.
Sit around in the dark with my shotgun waiting for the end to come.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:33 am to rickyh
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I heard some experts say, that most people in big cities would die within 2 weeks.
Does this sound logical?
For once "The Experts" might be right.
That said, sounds very...Georgia Guidestones / Agenda 2030ish. Naah. *Waving that off as kooky-CT paranoia*
WOULD it create maximum havoc, panic, chaos and death & destruction to society?
Not even the Luciferian Overlords and Controllers running things (who get off on fear and pain) would ever be THAT evil, psychopathic and sadistic.....RIGHT??
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:44 am to LSUBoo
Have plenty of land with shelter and ammo. Hunting and fishing wouldn't be a problem. Water is my main concern. There is a well, but without power I don't know how much use it would be. There are some stock tanks, but without flowing water like it's been this summer with the drought the drinking water would be scarce.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:57 am to Wermanium
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There is a well, but without power I don't know how much use it would be.
You can operate a well pump with a generator. A decent redneck electrician can show you how to hook it up with a dryer cord. So you'd still be dependent on generator fuel, but that can be planned for.
(Yeah I know you'll eventually run out in a legit Mad Max situation, but I think sporadic 2-3 week disruptions are much more likely than the various long-term scenarios pondered about on message boards.)
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:44 pm to Sharlo
I know people who have installed hand pumps to their wells. An EMP strike would make all modern vehicles useless. One day after hurricane Katrina, homes were being broken into in Ponchatoula. We were out of electricity for 17 days were I live. The local police were overwhelmed and blocked off both Ponchatoula exists on the interstate because New Orleans people and others were stopping to get gas and supplies and we didn't have any. But this was a situation where it only affected a region of the country. I am talking about something much broader and longer lasting.
All those who flee to the mountains better hope it is not winter. All the people talking about fishing better have a boat in the water and know how to paddle. To get to where you can hunt, you better be able to walk there. A certain percentage of the population will start criminal activity because no one can call law enforcement and even if you could, they wouldn't be able to respond.
Food and water would be the first issue but people streaming out of the cities would be more massive than you can imagine. Some interstates would need to be blown up.
All those who flee to the mountains better hope it is not winter. All the people talking about fishing better have a boat in the water and know how to paddle. To get to where you can hunt, you better be able to walk there. A certain percentage of the population will start criminal activity because no one can call law enforcement and even if you could, they wouldn't be able to respond.
Food and water would be the first issue but people streaming out of the cities would be more massive than you can imagine. Some interstates would need to be blown up.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:47 pm to rickyh
I'm heading directly to Fort Jefferson off the Fla Keys.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:51 pm to Chromdome35
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Read the book, One Second After.
Report back.
One Second After on Amazon
Im afraid this series is an optimistic view of the calamity that would take place.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:55 pm to BHM
quote:Doubt you would have, but would be funny if it's like The Mist and you kill him, then 3 minutes later the lights come back on, and you're in jail for life
My initial plan was to kill them and take their food supply.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:57 pm to rickyh
Crack heads and the homeless would become community leaders because they are used to just surviving on minimal need.
I would organize a posse and go steal everyone else's shite until I died a gruesome death and embraced the sweet darkness absolving me of my heinous life of survival
I would organize a posse and go steal everyone else's shite until I died a gruesome death and embraced the sweet darkness absolving me of my heinous life of survival
Posted on 8/24/22 at 12:57 pm to rickyh
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All those who flee to the mountains
They won't exactly be welcomed with open arms, no matter what time of year it is.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:06 pm to JackieTreehorn
quote:Sorry, LSUAlum2001 already claimed it a few posts up.
I'm heading directly to Fort Jefferson off the Fla Keys.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:13 pm to rickyh
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I am talking about something much broader and longer lasting.
like what??? please tell me what, outside of a Miyake Event which we have only had 1 of that we know of. what else would keep the grid down across the whole world for more than 6 weeks
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:16 pm to Odysseus32
quote:This
I'd wait for people to get the grid going again. I'd imagine most people are smart enough to realize anarchy, as romantic as it can sound, is outweighed by civilized society in terms of health and well-being.
Would there be quite a few individual types who were so desperate to survive or for their kids, would they do bad things to get ahold of food or whatever? Absolutely
But I think people have an idea like it'll be Walking Dead where the group is faced with some huge group of bad guys every single season, like there's going to be tons of groups of these types specifically around where you may live and they're all just trying to kill for fun is way out there.
quote:Yea, I think in the short term while I know I don't have the best survival skills and only own 1 handgun, I'd try to get on top of things super early and get with my neighbors to band together and then just trying to expand that group as much as possible so you have your own little civilization going, if you will. In the short term, that would just be mostly for protection and if there's something you don't have or just don't know how to do, the group is there to assist. I think that is certainly feasible in the short term when I assume everyone would have hopes to get the power back up and running sooner than later. If it starts to go long term, I have no idea from there.
If they don't get the grid back up, I've thought about it, and I don't know. We have a food supply, and we have water for at least a week or two in this house. We have a camper stove as well. I suppose we'd load up with that and try to find a campsite close to a large body of fresh water in Wyoming (if we could make it). I think trying to go anywhere for supplies would be a catastrophic mistake at least for a month or two. Try to find others who are of the same mindset, protect our area, and wait 6-8 weeks before venturing into any cities for supplies. Until then, try our best not to die.
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