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re: Why don't parents hit their kids anymore?

Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Do you think it's worse than, say, the burn they're going to get if they crawl up on the counter to a hot pot? (True story). Spankings are meant to scare them so they don't repeat said behavior.
Alternatively, you could have told the kid to get down (or not get up) and explain that the pot is hot and will burn. If a kid is old enough to climb counters, he's old enough to understand acting out touch-hot-ouch. You could also put his hand near to feel the heat. Then he would have learned something other than asking why tf mom was a crazy person this time when I've climbed up here a thousand times before.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
21996 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:00 pm to
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A kid on my flight literally screamed, hit his parents repeatedly on the plane without discipline



I wonder if the kid was autistic or had some serious underlying mental condition and was freaked out by crowds or flying?
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15130 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:08 pm to
Because some George Soros DA finds out about it and your arse will go to jail for assault and battery.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112692 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:32 pm to
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Why don't parents hit their kids anymore?

Don't know but hitting a kid is sure as shite a sign of weakness and poor parenting.

There is no parenting technique that will work 100% of the time, but hitting a kid is just you saying you don't know any other way to teach your kid, so you're going to abuse them.

You also think it's fixing whatever the issue is, but the issues you're creating as a result are going to be 10x worse than your kid no longer doing whatever the thing is he did that got him hit. Congrats, he stopped doing that, now he's going to hate you and never feel like he can connect or talk to you about anything, nor will the hitting actually make him stop doing stuff in the future.


That's the thing with hitting vs abusing your kids. If you are hitting them but not hard enough to hurt them, why in the world would you think that will accomplish anything? But the flip side, if you're hitting them hard enough to hurt them, that then makes you one of the shittier parents on the planet, so good luck with those 2 options!
Posted by I707U
Member since Nov 2022
67 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:33 pm to
Kids do call child services. It has its pros and cons.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25818 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 5:22 pm to
"Hit" has a different connotation than "spank."



Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51259 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:20 pm to
TD needs an “I actually have kids” verification flair
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:26 pm to
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literally every expert on the matter will say hitting kids is bad and ineffective. but you disagree.


An argument to authority is probably the most ridiculous fallacy these days.

How many experts said if you get the COVID vaccine you won’t get COVID?
How many “experts” will tell you that a man can get pregnant?

You need to bring a better form of evidence than that
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
53918 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:40 pm to
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I was spanked as a boy, but the kids at my MS and HS who were hit by their parents into adolescence all went off their rocker and have damaged relationships with their parents.

I have good relationships with my four children, who all got tagged, and they are in their early 30’s. My dad whipped our asses, and two of the three of his sons had excellent relations with him. The third didn’t, but that’s because dad completely overcompensated for my mom babying him.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29079 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:45 pm to
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An argument to authority is probably the most ridiculous fallacy these days.
An appeal to one authority is a fallacy. An appeal to all the authorities is typically called "evidence". At least it used to be.
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How many experts said if you get the COVID vaccine you won’t get COVID?
Few to none. No vaccine is 100%, and the trial data from the covid vaccines proved they weren't 100%. There were and are, however, many people who will tell you that experts said you won't get covid if you get vaccinated. Those people are experts in misinformation.
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How many “experts” will tell you that a man can get pregnant?
What kind of shite do you watch and listen to?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60009 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:51 pm to
These methods do work - most of the time - but you will have those times or maybe that one kid it just doesn’t work for
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:55 pm to
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An appeal to one authority is a fallacy. An appeal to all the authorities is typically called "evidence". At least it used to be.


Posts on Twitter get removed all the time with the justification that “experts agree” for everything from climate change to gender.

All I’m saying is that’s a weak arse argument to be making these days. Maybe that was true before the intellectual elites were infected with a woke socialist ideology and a hatred for rational discourse.

I’m sure you will laugh that off as conspiratorial but your head is simply in the sand.

Why not just post the studies and we can debate that?
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 6:56 pm
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31201 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:53 pm to
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An argument to authority is probably the most ridiculous fallacy these days.


i'm referencing the 50 year study with 160,000 kids studied. tons and tons of evidence.

LINK

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A 2016 study by child development and family science experts from The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan analyzed decades of research into the effects of corporal punishment on more than 160,000 kids.


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They say the evidence is overwhelming.

It’s important to note, the researchers made a clear distinction between spanking and what most American parents would consider abusive behavior.

But – they say the end result is almost the same.

Dr. Andrew Grogan-Kaylor, who has a Ph.D. in Philosophy in Social Welfare, says, “spanking increases the likelihood of a wide variety of undesired outcomes for children. Spanking thus does the opposite of what parents usually want it to do.”

A 2013 New York Times report explained how researchers discovered maternal spanking when children are young is associated with greater aggression and rule-breaking, as well as lower scores on vocabulary tests a few years later.

"These results demonstrate negative effects of spanking on child behavioral and cognitive development in a longitudinal sample from birth through 9 years of age," wrote the researchers behind the 2013 findings in Pediatrics, the official journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

In 2018, the academy strengthened its call to stop spanking and advocated for educating parents about "more effective discipline strategies."
Posted by TheEnglishman
On the road to Wellville
Member since Mar 2010
3292 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:22 pm to
If you were a parent you'd see that spanking/hitting doesn't work.

What does work is removing things they find joy in and being consistent with disciplining bad behavior. Also I have found that just explaining why (at a time appropriate) will get kids to think twice before doing something stupid, wrong, or embarrassing.
Posted by TheFitfulFire
Houma
Member since Jan 2017
151 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 4:39 pm to
So we agree then
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 4:48 pm to
Hitting kids in public is trashy.

But if they act that way in public it’s because they know there aren’t any consequences in private. Ball is in parents court tbh
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9023 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 5:17 pm to
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bullshite..spanking isn’t needed anywhere. It’s a last resort for people who don’t know any other way or don’t care to put in the effort. Saying things like it’s needed only justifies it to yourself, to those who did it to you and to others.



Damn people are so soft nowadays. I’ve popped my girls a handful of times and they are 5 1/2. One pop on the bottom and they get right with the quickness. Usually it’s timeout first then if they keep running their mouth it’s a spank on the booty. My dad got me and my brother right with way worse.
This post was edited on 12/3/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9023 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 5:21 pm to
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don't hit my child or spank, because that isn't a form of behavior modification that works for him.


He will be a she in no time
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
138100 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 5:25 pm to
People who don't discipline their children are why this country is the way it is today with young people. It's really sad what passes for parenting today.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18010 posts
Posted on 12/3/22 at 5:28 pm to
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After that the action of removing the belt was enough to stop my antics



That's when I started running or cowering and begging for mercy
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