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It’s not looking good for duck season in MS Flyway
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:42 am
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:42 am
Yes…duck season has not been good these last few years in the MS flyway and it may get worse. USFWS is reporting that a drought throughout last winter resulted in a drastic decrease in breeding ponds. The rains came in late spring to fill the ponds but it was too late. They are expecting a further decline in ducks than what we have seen lately.
The season used to be 30 days with a three duck limit when duck numbers were down. Then the duck population exploded in the 1990s and so a liberal season of 60 days and a 6 duck limit has been used since then. It will be interesting to see if USFWS decreases the season length and duck limit now that we have been in a downward trend of the duck population.
I would like to continue to have the 60 day season (more opportunities to hunt and be in the duck woods) and would not mind a decrease in the duck limit. Killing a 6 duck limit has been rare on my hunts these last few years anyway.. I used to be mad at the ducks and wanted 6 at all costs but now I’m satisfied with killing 3 ducks on a hunt.
The season used to be 30 days with a three duck limit when duck numbers were down. Then the duck population exploded in the 1990s and so a liberal season of 60 days and a 6 duck limit has been used since then. It will be interesting to see if USFWS decreases the season length and duck limit now that we have been in a downward trend of the duck population.
I would like to continue to have the 60 day season (more opportunities to hunt and be in the duck woods) and would not mind a decrease in the duck limit. Killing a 6 duck limit has been rare on my hunts these last few years anyway.. I used to be mad at the ducks and wanted 6 at all costs but now I’m satisfied with killing 3 ducks on a hunt.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 7:45 am
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:46 am to gumbeaux
White -fronted just hit a 30 year low and Canada now lets you hunt them in the afternoon and Ark still has a 74 day season with 3 bag limit
They don't care about the numbers, its all about money
They don't care about the numbers, its all about money
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:53 am to Midtiger farm
I don’t get the reasoning behind Canada giving more opportunities to kill white front geese with their numbers as low as they are. I’m all for a shorter season or lower limits if it helps population numbers.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 9:47 am to gumbeaux
I agree with this completely. I have a kid at home and job that doesn’t let me get out as much as I’d like. They need to keep it at 60 to allow opportunity, but it’s ridiculous to keep the 6 man limits. The best hunters in the best spots kill their limits way more often the average Joe. No one needs multiple days of full limits of ducks. I refuse to believe the Instagram warriors are plucking and cleaning 6 ducks a day.
The Canada thing is ridiculous also.
The Canada thing is ridiculous also.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:22 am to DanielBooned
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I refuse to believe the Instagram warriors are plucking and cleaning 6 ducks a day.
Maybe breasting them. Cleaning a whole bird seems to be a lost art form.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:06 am to MWP
I won’t completely clean spoonies, and sometimes teal if I have a ton. But every other big duck and speck, heck yea. It just taste amazing.
I love duck hunting more than just about anything in this world. It’s my happy place. I’ve had seasons where I’ve killed many limits of birds, and seasons where May not have even gone through a single box of shells. Just being out there in the cold with the guys watching the sunset is heaven.
But I hate what the sport has become, I’m all for the next generation getting involved (it’s necessary to keep the sport going) but unlike fishing and other kinds of hunting, it seems like duck hunting sometimes draws in the worst kind of people. The marketing and money involved in constantly having new gear, new boats, new clothes, new calls, new dekes, pretty absurd. And yes, sometimes I fall victim to it as well.
But that’s the reason nothing will change in duck hunting- there is simply too much money at stake, from orgs like DU, to clothing and gear manufactures, all the way down to the farmers and pit pimps and local economies in Ark, Mo, Ms etc that depend on hunters for 3 months keeping the local economy juiced. Deer and Turkey don’t grease the wheels like duck
I love duck hunting more than just about anything in this world. It’s my happy place. I’ve had seasons where I’ve killed many limits of birds, and seasons where May not have even gone through a single box of shells. Just being out there in the cold with the guys watching the sunset is heaven.
But I hate what the sport has become, I’m all for the next generation getting involved (it’s necessary to keep the sport going) but unlike fishing and other kinds of hunting, it seems like duck hunting sometimes draws in the worst kind of people. The marketing and money involved in constantly having new gear, new boats, new clothes, new calls, new dekes, pretty absurd. And yes, sometimes I fall victim to it as well.
But that’s the reason nothing will change in duck hunting- there is simply too much money at stake, from orgs like DU, to clothing and gear manufactures, all the way down to the farmers and pit pimps and local economies in Ark, Mo, Ms etc that depend on hunters for 3 months keeping the local economy juiced. Deer and Turkey don’t grease the wheels like duck
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:34 am to gumbeaux
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Killing a 6 duck limit has been rare on my hunts these last few years anyway.
My old hunting buddy said it best, limits don't mean much when there's no birds to kill. Whether the limit is 3 or 6, the majority of hunters aren't going to kill 6 anyway.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:39 am to gumbeaux
quote:No shite. Therefore: “If It’s Brown It’s Down”.
It’s not looking good for duck season in MS Flyway
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:39 am to REB BEER
I call it a good morning if I see 6 ducks.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:40 am to REB BEER
quote:Came here to post this. Our blind has not limited out many times at all. The best chance is when one of us hunts alone. 3 people? Not sure it's ever happened in 3 years.
Whether the limit is 3 or 6, the majority of hunters aren't going to kill 6 anyway.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:40 am to gumbeaux
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I would like to continue to have the 60 day season (more opportunities to hunt and be in the duck woods) and would not mind a decrease in the duck limit. Killing a 6 duck limit has been rare on my hunts these last few years anyway.. I used to be mad at the ducks and wanted 6 at all costs but now I’m satisfied with killing 3 ducks on a hunt.
I would like to keep the 60 day season as well, but I’m really not sure how big of an impact lowering the bag limit would be vs shortening the season. I think most people struggle to shoot a limit, so you probably aren’t doing all that much to help the population.
With that said, there is so much money in the hunting industry, I highly doubt they will do anything to change it.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 11:43 am
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:43 am to Midtiger farm
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Canada now lets you hunt them in the afternoon
This isn’t going to affect anything other than scattering the birds in Sask. The state of Arkansas sells more hunting licenses than the entire country of Canada.
They’ve always allowed goose hunting in the afternoon in Alberta and the pacific and central flyway still kills its fair share of darks throughout the season.
Canada does not affect the birds in the states like people think it does.
You have to have weather events for the birds to migrate, no weather, no need for them to migrate.
And the breeding grounds is Sask were as good as they’ve been in quite some time this past breeding season.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 12:03 pm to Tigerfan14
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I would like to keep the 60 day season as well, but I’m really not sure how big of an impact lowering the bag limit would be vs shortening the season.
Couple different podcasts I listened to last year basically said days kill ducks, not limits. It's why in the AHM model for the MS Flyway, the limits are almost the same in the liberal and moderate scenarios. Even going to the moderate (45 days) would help and I think hunters, at least in LA, are open to it to see if it will help. Issue is the federal framework is set a year ahead. So the the limits for this year were set last August.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 12:32 pm to LSUengr
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days kill ducks, not limits
30 days, 12 duck limit... Sold!
Posted on 8/12/24 at 12:52 pm to LSUengr
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days kill ducks, not limits
truth....
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:03 pm to gumbeaux
Another aspect to this is habitat. Fished around my leases in Terrebonne parish this weekend. We could get a million ducks, they'll leave because there's no feed. The last few years IF you got ducks they'd leave in a couple days looking for feed.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:14 pm to gumbeaux
quote:This is the longest run of 60 day seasons we have ever had .
The season used to be 30 days with a three duck limit when duck numbers were down. Then the duck population exploded in the 1990s and so a liberal season of 60 days and a 6 duck limit has been used since then. It will be interesting to see if USFWS decreases the season length and duck limit now that we have been in a downward trend of the duck population.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:18 pm to LSUengr
quote:I doubt they will go to 45/4 next year or even the year after. It's plain and simple if you average 3 ducks per hunt but in a 60 day season you hunt 12 days that's 36 ducks. in a 30 day season you average 3 ducks per hunt and hunt 6-8 days that's 21 days.
ouple different podcasts I listened to last year basically said days kill ducks, not limits. It's why in the AHM model for the MS Flyway, the limits are almost the same in the liberal and moderate scenarios. Even going to the moderate (45 days) would help and I think hunters, at least in LA, are open to it to see if it will help. Issue is the federal framework is set a year ahead. So the the limits for this year were set last August.
30 day season takes a way a lot of weekend opportunities for most people. In all honesty except for some woody swats - my long and pretty good duck career the end is in sight and I'm ok with that.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:20 pm to PocketLab
quote:This and Salvinia is ruining many many other spots.
Another aspect to this is habitat. Fished around my leases in Terrebonne parish this weekend.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:27 pm to gumbeaux
shite been like this for 20 yrs baw. I’m over it, but if they come back I’m shooting my fill.
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