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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:01 pm to
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I have my candidate, but I’m not pouting. If he loses I’ll get behind the winner(2nd place) and write him a check.


Good man.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
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I have my candidate, but I’m not pouting. If he loses I’ll get behind the winner(2nd place) and write him a check.





The way it should be, hopefully everyone is like you
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:03 pm to
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I have my candidate, but I’m not pouting. If he loses I’ll get behind the winner(2nd place)
Me, too. But just look at this board.

There are supporters of both Rispone and Abraham who are acting like this is a football playoff. If their team doesn't advance in the playoff, they'll just lose interest and not participate in the general election.

The same goes for the closest friends and supporters of Abraham. After the attack ads on the doctor by Rispone, there's no way they will vote for Rispone if he's in the runoff.

That's how Rispone's attack ads have changed the dynamic of this race. Edwards is just sitting back laughing his arse off at those attack ads.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:10 pm to
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There are supporters of both Rispone and Abraham who are acting like this is a football playoff. If their team doesn't advance in the playoff, they'll just lose interest and not participate in the general election.



Please link one Rispone supporter that has said they wouldn't support Abraham. I obviously havent seen everything but I dont recall seeing a single one.

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:11 pm to
@LSURussian

Dropping truth bombs all up in this thread!
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
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1) People (politicians to an even greater extent), like to "pick" the winner. People do this because they want to feel good, it feels good when your guy wins.


Totally fair, and I don't disagree at all. It's human nature.

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They know enough about Rispone to know that he won't give a shite about "political points", he only wants the state to be what it should have always been and succeed.


AND

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2) Could it be that the outsider scares the living shite out of the establishment? Maybe LAGOP has been spreading around that GOP politicians and Lobby groups were not allowed to endorse Rispone.


Ummm...Rispone and his family are, especially by Louisiana standards, widely considered "mega-donors" and heavy GOP insiders. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I think it's a great thing for conservatives to contribute to conservatives.

However, one of the biggest reasons you haven't seen more of our federal delegation support Abraham outright is due to the monster amount of dollars (by LA standards) that Rispone has donated to them over the years; it's kept them on the sidelines. It's not because Abraham's "their circle" or part of some mysterious political cabal...it's because Rispone is just as much "one of them" as anyone else.

Bottom line: None of this unproductive back and forth would've materialized between two of the more legit conservatives we've had run for governor in years if Rispone wouldn't have fired shots on tv.

The eye needs to be on defeating JBE...not on playing right into the hands of JBE's turds. They love the gift-wrapped GOP fights at a late hour. It wasn't until the two bombshell Johnny Anderson ads dropped yesterday that JBE starting losing confidence again.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:18 pm to
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He’s a JBE plant and the fools on here fell for it


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District 5

Whatever you say, Northie.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134065 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:21 pm to
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Please link one Rispone supporter that has said they wouldn't support Abraham.
I don't have to read them saying they won't vote for Abraham if Rispone isn't in the runoff.

So you believe all of the posters on this board who have called Abraham a RINO and called for him to withdraw and criticized him because they believe he is a "career politician who lies," among other vile things, will still want to vote for him in the general election?

I don't.

And the general election will be very close if Edwards is able to get 46% - 48% in the primary. There will be no margin for error in the runoff.

Edwards wins if even a small percentage of Republican voters sit out the general election. You and I both know his base will turn out and vote in the general election come hell or high water.
Posted by The Boat
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176289 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:23 pm to
Abraham voters here are the only ones saying they would sit out the runoff. There hasn't been a single Rispone voter say they wouldn't vote for Abraham in the runoff.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42112 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:24 pm to
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That's how Rispone's attack ads have changed the dynamic of this race. Edwards is just sitting back laughing his arse off at those attack ads.


Yes, and it’s the same type ads Edwards came out with first.

I didn’t vote for Trump in the primary, I went with Cruz. My guy lost, but I certainly voted Trump when it came down to the nut cutting even though Trump tore up my guy.

Btw, I was wrong the first time and glad we elected Ttump.

Just saying, the big picture is to get Edwards our.

Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:27 pm to
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I don't have to read them saying they won't vote for Abraham if Rispone isn't in the runoff.


oh ok



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So you believe all of the posters on this board who have called Abraham a RINO and called for him to withdraw and criticized him because they believe he is a "career politician who lies," among other vile things, will still want to vote for him in the general election?



Yes, or they would be on here doing the same things as Abraham voters crying frick Abraham and other types of name calling.

You havent read a single one and i could probably go find 10 posts the other way without leaving the 1st page of this board.

I am a Rispone supporter and have said on here numerous times that I will be voting for Abraham is he makes it no matter what and i am not the only Rispone supporter that has done so.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42112 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:27 pm to
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@LSURussian Dropping truth bombs all up in this thread


He makes a good point now and then.

;-)
Posted by Suntiger
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Member since Feb 2007
35906 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Both Abraham and Rispone to their credit have stated they will cut spending that’s not necessary. They talk in generalities because specifics would be used against them and would be so much minutia to the voter that it wouldn’t matter.


They talk in generalities because they want the vote. Republicans have had a majority and don’t cut programs when people come in and cry at committee meetings. Neither will Abraham or Rispone. Rispone has no clue what he is doing. To Abraham’s credit, he’s saying he will dismantle DOTD, although I’m not sure what his plan is to do without it. But it’s at least something.

And there’s only so much to cut. What’s it gonna be Ed, healthcare or higher ed? Jindal already spent the rainy day fund, sold non-essential state property and contracted out state jobs. There’s not much meat on this bone to cut.

I just don’t like the dishonesty when they can’t be specific in what they plan to cut so they can build all these roads and early education centers.
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
33206 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:40 pm to
Rispone should write a letter back:

If you truly want what is best for Louisiana, prove it. Drop out of this race and continue to fight for us in Washington D.C. Two conservatives fighting for Louisiana is better than one.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134065 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:49 pm to
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crying frick Abraham and other types of name calling.

They have in so many words.

The danger isn't that a Rispone or Abraham primary voter will vote for Edwards in a runoff.

The danger is they WON'T VOTE AT ALL in a runoff. That's what the non-Vitter Republican primary election voters did in 2015's general election that got Edwards elected.

And that is what would get Edwards re-elected this time.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42112 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:51 pm to
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I just don’t like the dishonesty


Great, then we know you aren’t voting for “I will not raise taxes” Edwards.
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2465 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:11 pm to
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Please link one Rispone supporter that has said they wouldn't support Abraham.


I’m all in for RISPONE. Nearly every Conservative I’ve spoken with in South & CenLa echoes the same. If he places 3rd, I guarantee you 100% of Rispone’s votes will belong to Doc. JBE’s manipulative talk & failed policies must end. Go vote! Early voting ends Saturday.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:14 pm to
Truth. The Rispone group isn’t the skyscreamers saying they will take their ball and go home. They are either trying to intimidate people to vote for Abraham or they are weak people who can’t separate their emotions from logic.

Get your arse out and vote for the R against the liberal, back talking JBE.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134065 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:40 pm to
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The Rispone group isn’t the skyscreamers saying they will take their ball and go home.
Has the Abraham campaign spent hundreds of thousands of dollars buying TV ads telling vicious lies about Rispone's character? The correct answer is no. (All of the character assassination ads against Rispone are by GumboPac, the plaintiff attorney PAC which supports Edwards.)

But the Rispone campaign has done exactly that against Abraham.

See the difference??
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 4:41 pm
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
975 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:45 pm to
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I finally watched the second debate last night. Rispone will be an unmitigated disaster. He kept talking about “how we don’t know where the money is going. You need a businessman to get in there and figure it out and prioritize.” The budget is a public record that’s gone over every year. It’s on the internet and you can watch the debate on television. You’re running for Governor and are saying you can find money and will prioritize things but can’t take the time to look at the damn budget or appropriation bill?! And you can’t say what will be “prioritized”? This guy has no plan and no clue of what’s going on.


I plan on voting for Edwards. So obviously I don't prefer Rispone, but if I may slightly defend him: he's not as dumb as his campaign positions indicate. I think he is a smart guy, if inexperienced in government and not too prone personality-wise to being a politician. You may have a point though- he may, at this point, not actually have a lot of real understanding of what the state spends our money on, and if so that is his fault because it's all public.

But if Rispone is elected, I think he will be smarter and more knowledgeable than, say, Mike Foster, who I thought was genuinely a lazy horse's a55 who did not have a lot of intellectual interest in the job. On the other hand- Foster was very interested in dominating the legislature and getting his way and winning reelection, and didn't mind being a bully in order to get his way. Foster I think achieved pretty much every one of his goals, modest though they were. So I think Rispone would be a smarter governor intellectually than Foster, and is probably a better businessman than "Foster the businessman" ever was. But, Rispone's personality may ultimately lead him, if elected, to be a less successful governor than Foster turned out to be.

Time will tell.
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