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re: Adelle apologizes to Beyoncé for her white privilege
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:34 am to olddawg26
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:34 am to olddawg26
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Y'all would have been up in arms is Beyoncé would have actually won the award too, so it's really pointless.
Nah. I don't listen to either of theirs' music, wouldn't matter to me who won or didn't. I have real life things to be distracted by.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:35 am to Revelator
During Sunday night’s 59th Grammy Awards, Adele’s “25” was named Album of the Year. Many people ? really, anyone who has watched and listened to the revelatory, ground-breaking, stunning, visual album “Lemonade” ? felt that Beyoncé had been robbed of the honor. Turns out, Adele herself was one of those people.
The 28-year-old singer used her Grammy speech, as well as her time with the press backstage, to say that despite being honored and humbled, the award should have been given to “the artist of [her] life,” Beyoncé.
I can’t possibly accept this award, and I’m very humbled and I’m very grateful and gracious, but my artist of my life is Beyoncé and this album, to me, the ‘Lemonade’ album, was so monumental, Beyoncé,” Adele said, later addressing Bey directly and acknowledging that “Lemonade” was created first and foremost for black women: “You are our light. And the way that you make me and my friends feel, the way you make my black friends feel, is empowering. You make them stand up for themselves and I love you. I always have and I always will.”
Backstage, Adele was a bit more explicit in her critique of a voting body that could not bring itself to honor even the most above-and-beyond exceptional work of a black woman. (The last black female artist to win Album Of The Year was Lauryn Hill, in 1999. And Beyoncé, the most nominated female artist of all time, has now lost out on Album of the Year on three separate occasions, to three white artists.)
“My Album of the Year is ‘Lemonade,’” Adele reportedly told press backstage. “For her to make such relevant music for that long of a period, I felt the need…it was her time to win. What the frick does she have to do to win Album of the Year? It was another side of her. Obviously, the visual is very new and the Grammys are very traditional, but this year I thought would be the year they go with the tide. Of course, I’m very grateful to have won it, but I love her. I felt she was more than worthy, and that’s pretty much it.”
The implied answer to Adele’s rhetorical question is simple: Be white, and make music that is both commercially successful and does not force the listener to question white supremacy.
It is not Adele’s fault that she won the Grammys she won. But as white women, we can learn from her instinct to use a public moment that was, perhaps wrongly, afforded to her to honor the work of a woman who truly deserved that moment herself. Adele showed us one small way to practice sisterhood rather than exclusionary White Feminism.
White women must use their privilege to actively step back and elevate women of color. It is not enough to recognize that white supremacy generally exists. It is far more impactful to call out specific injustices ? especially when they work to benefit you directly.
Huffington Post
The 28-year-old singer used her Grammy speech, as well as her time with the press backstage, to say that despite being honored and humbled, the award should have been given to “the artist of [her] life,” Beyoncé.
I can’t possibly accept this award, and I’m very humbled and I’m very grateful and gracious, but my artist of my life is Beyoncé and this album, to me, the ‘Lemonade’ album, was so monumental, Beyoncé,” Adele said, later addressing Bey directly and acknowledging that “Lemonade” was created first and foremost for black women: “You are our light. And the way that you make me and my friends feel, the way you make my black friends feel, is empowering. You make them stand up for themselves and I love you. I always have and I always will.”
Backstage, Adele was a bit more explicit in her critique of a voting body that could not bring itself to honor even the most above-and-beyond exceptional work of a black woman. (The last black female artist to win Album Of The Year was Lauryn Hill, in 1999. And Beyoncé, the most nominated female artist of all time, has now lost out on Album of the Year on three separate occasions, to three white artists.)
“My Album of the Year is ‘Lemonade,’” Adele reportedly told press backstage. “For her to make such relevant music for that long of a period, I felt the need…it was her time to win. What the frick does she have to do to win Album of the Year? It was another side of her. Obviously, the visual is very new and the Grammys are very traditional, but this year I thought would be the year they go with the tide. Of course, I’m very grateful to have won it, but I love her. I felt she was more than worthy, and that’s pretty much it.”
The implied answer to Adele’s rhetorical question is simple: Be white, and make music that is both commercially successful and does not force the listener to question white supremacy.
It is not Adele’s fault that she won the Grammys she won. But as white women, we can learn from her instinct to use a public moment that was, perhaps wrongly, afforded to her to honor the work of a woman who truly deserved that moment herself. Adele showed us one small way to practice sisterhood rather than exclusionary White Feminism.
White women must use their privilege to actively step back and elevate women of color. It is not enough to recognize that white supremacy generally exists. It is far more impactful to call out specific injustices ? especially when they work to benefit you directly.
Huffington Post
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:35 am to pwejr88
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The OP doesn't contain anything remotely close to "apologizing for white privilege.
Correct
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Correct
bullshite. Read the Huffington Post's take on the Adelle speech.
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White women must use their privilege to actively step back and elevate women of color. It is not enough to recognize that white supremacy generally exists. It is far more impactful to call out specific injustices ? especially when they work to benefit you directly.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
OK cool so that's the point.
People trying to spin it.
People trying to spin it.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:47 am to pwejr88
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Not reading through this whole thread but where did Adelle do this? The OP doesn't contain anything remotely close to "apologizing for white privilege."
Read the Huffington Post article I linked. They basically are making the same point I made in the OP. Beyoncé, the black woman was robbed by the white woman and thankfully, Adelle's was PC enough to realize she needed to apologize for her white privilege and the award it gained for her.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:48 am to Revelator
I can only imagine what this Huffington Post article would have looked like had the actual album of the year won: Sturgill Simpson - A Sailor's Guide to Earth.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:53 am to John Casey
It's convenient that now I showed the liberal rag making the point of my OP that Adelle was right to apologize for her white privilege and the award it got her, all my detractors disappeared like a popcorn fart in the wind.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:57 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Adele is an artist. She writes her own songs. And she the furthest thing, according to my definition, to being an entertainer. I mean, she just stands there.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:00 pm to Revelator
This is dumb. Adelle writes her own music, plays the piano and sometimes drums on the recordings. Beyonce requires a writer's credit on her songs for like coming up with a harmony. Adelle is better than Beyonce musically and creatively, and it's a shame she doesn't think so
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:00 pm to Revelator
She has a point, but not the one she was trying to make. The Grammys (like the Oscars) are INSANELY political. It really has nothing to do with being "the best".
Personally, I prefer Adele's music over Beyonce's, but given all the choices neither is going to end up on my playlist.
Personally, I prefer Adele's music over Beyonce's, but given all the choices neither is going to end up on my playlist.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:05 pm to narddogg81
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[quote]Adelle is better than Beyonce musically and creatively, and it's a shame she doesn't think so
She probably does think so inside, but she has to put on the groveling act as to not be crucified for stealing the award from a black woman.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:07 pm to Revelator
quote:if you like mindless vocal acrobatics and dancing, Beyonce does those things. Adelle is better in every other regard
Beyoncé, the black woman was robbed by the white woman and thankfully, Adelle's was PC enough to realize she needed to apologize for her white privilege and the award it gained for her.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:22 pm to PaperTiger
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Adele is an artist. She writes her own songs
Pardon me. I did not know this. I don't really know much about Adele. Good for her that she actually writes her stuff. All the more reason she should win an award over someone who doesn't. The hard part is writing and playing the instrument (or singing). Not just waiting around for someone else to write your song and choreograph your dances, which is what Beyoncé does.
And I have nothing against Beyoncé....
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:23 pm to Revelator
I'm sure she meant light skinned.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:37 pm to Revelator
I don't understand all the deification of Beyonce that goes on in general. It's like one day a few years back all women, especially white ones, decided Beyonce was a goddess, their queen, and beyond any form of criticism.
I'm like, "you mean that bitch that was in that trio from the late 90s?"
I'm like, "you mean that bitch that was in that trio from the late 90s?"
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:42 pm to olddawg26
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Adelle apologizes to Beyoncé for her white privilegeArtist thought another artist should have gotten an award. I think you immediately jumped to black/white privilege shite too soon because of an agenda.
And I think you are disregarding the obvious.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:56 pm to Revelator
Doesn't Adele have a FAR more black pathology in her background than fricking Beyonce???
Born to basically poor English white trash in London, to an English mother, Penny Adkins, and a Welsh father, Marc Evans.
Adele's father left home when Adele was two, leaving her mother to raise her alone. Her mother found work as an adult-learning activities organizer. (uhhh, yeah) That's code for British food stamps.
Born to basically poor English white trash in London, to an English mother, Penny Adkins, and a Welsh father, Marc Evans.
Adele's father left home when Adele was two, leaving her mother to raise her alone. Her mother found work as an adult-learning activities organizer. (uhhh, yeah) That's code for British food stamps.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 12:58 pm to Revelator
They're both terrible though.
Pop music is trash.
Pop music is trash.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 1:07 pm to narddogg81
Beyonce has been coddled from day 1 of her career.
Groomed and manufactured to be a superstar by the powers that be.
Adele was poor white trash who worked her way up the ladder without any handlers or managers.
Groomed and manufactured to be a superstar by the powers that be.
Adele was poor white trash who worked her way up the ladder without any handlers or managers.
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