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Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:12 pm to
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Residents are seeing a tremendous amount of noise and bright lights


Baw. It is Holly Ridge. There are not many residents to worry about.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45762 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:13 pm to
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- Residents are seeing a tremendous amount of noise and bright lights


At a construction site? NO WAY!

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13005 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:15 pm to
So?…
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:42 pm to
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So?…


Surrounding areas have lower water pressure, higher electric bills, polluted air that travels great distances, strain local power grids, noise pollution, and water scarcity issues.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:09 pm to
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I'm not signed up for anything like chat/facebook/instagram/X or anything else. Will they start charging internet usage above what service providers charge?

I understand but it will get to a point of 'the have's' and 'the have nots'. Its already starting. I know individuals paying hundreds of dollars a month, because it is making them more productive (allowing the to earn more).

I can see why some claim it will become a fundamental service (some call a basic right..lol), which government must guarantee.

Just remember when the low income projects and subsidized housing have to have internet and AI next to the SNAP benefits, cable and cell phones.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45762 posts
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:16 pm to
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Surrounding areas have lower water pressure, higher electric bills, polluted air that travels great distances, strain local power grids, noise pollution, and water scarcity issues.


Some of these are valid. Some are laughable.

Noise and air pollution? From a data center? Ok.

Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:08 am to
"OpenAI is throwing its support behind an Illinois state bill that would shield AI labs from liability in cases where AI models are used to cause serious societal harms, such as death or serious injury of 100 or more people or at least $1 billion in property damage." Wired

https://www.wired.com/story/openai-backs-bill-exempt-ai-firms-model-harm-lawsuits/

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OpenAI is actively supporting Illinois Senate Bill 3444, also known as the Artificial Intelligence Safety Act, which would shield AI developers from liability for "critical harms" caused by their models. This legislation represents a shift in strategy for OpenAI, which has previously often opposed AI liability legislation.

Key Aspects of the Illinois Bill (SB 3444):
Liability Shield: The bill provides immunity to "frontier AI" developers from lawsuits regarding serious harms, provided the companies did not act intentionally or recklessly, and have published safety, security, and transparency reports.

Definition of "Critical Harm": The legislation defines this as mass-casualty events (death or injury of 100 or more people), property damage of at least $1 billion, or the use of AI to develop chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons.

Targeted Companies: The bill applies to AI models trained with more than $100 million in computational costs, effectively covering major labs like OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, and Meta.

Safety Reports Requirement: To gain protection, companies must publish a safety and security protocol describing how they test, assess, and reduce the risk of extreme harms.

Criticisms:
Critics and some policy experts have expressed concerns that the bill sets a low bar for immunity, requiring only that safety reports be published, rather than proving they are effective. Some have labeled this "near total legal immunity" for catastrophic AI harm.

OpenAI Backs Bill That Would Limit Liability for AI-Enabled Mass Deaths or Financial Disasters
Apr 9, 2026 — “We support approaches like this because they focus on what matters most: Reducing the risk of serious harm from the most advanced...

OpenAI just testified in favor of an Illinois bill that would shield AI ...
Apr 10, 2026 — What counts as critical harms? Death or serious injury of 100 or more people. Or at least $1 billion in property damage. They want...

OpenAI is backing a state bill to shield AI companies from lawsuits for catastrophic harm
Apr 10, 2026 — An Illinois state bill that limits when AI developers can be sued over catastrophic harm has gained a notable backer: OpenAI, acco...

Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Noise and air pollution? From a data center? Ok.


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The gases are toxic. Fact. Worked with diesels for 35 years. Now stage 3 lung disease.

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That high pitch is probably driving dogs and all animals insane….
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Anyone near these download a free decibel app and take and monitor the levels. See what level is a violation


Data centers pose significant health risks to both workers and neighboring communities, primarily through noise pollution, air pollution from diesel generators, and high water consumption. Key dangers include respiratory and cardiovascular issues from toxic emissions, hearing loss, and heat stress. Rapid AI-driven growth may cause over 1,300 premature deaths annually in the U.S. by 2030, with substantial health costs.
https://www.environmentalhealthproject.org/post/the-dangers-of-data-centers
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3988259/
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32171 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 4:35 pm to
The water quality used for agriculture is very unlikely to be suitable for use in these cooling water applications, also unlikely to come from the same aquifers.

Apples v Oranges
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32171 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 6:49 pm to
We are permitting multiple power plants for Entergy to supply these, behind the meter, including the one in Richland Parish. Access to Haynesville gas is going to be a big boon.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/11/26 at 6:58 pm to
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We are permitting multiple power plants for Entergy to supply these, behind the meter, including the one in Richland Parish. Access to Haynesville gas is going to be a big boon.


Electric/water bills are increasing.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:31 am to
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She says there is discharge that turns the entire river white like milk. She paid for testing and found extremely high heavy metal levels

“I live on a horse farm and I am an educator. I, for almost four 50 years, a natural creek has flowed through my property. It's 20 feet wide, up to four feet deep. It has persisted through drought, flood, seasonal change. It's part of a connected system. Groundwater, tributaries, watersheds, aquifers ultimately flowing into Beaver Dam Lake. Until construction began upstream on the data center, its behavior was stable and predictable

After construction started, all of that changed. Here in Beaver Dam, the creek began to stop flowing entirely without rainfall. It would abruptly return off in cloudy and opaque like milk, with enough force to cause drastic erosion and damage — Water testing on my property shows elevated strontium, a very dangerous metal, and other indicators consistent with deep groundwater influence”
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45762 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:34 am to
Where do heavy metals come from in a data center?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:39 am to
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Where do heavy metals come from in a data center?


AI Overview
Heavy metals in a data center originate from three primary sources: IT equipment (e-waste), infrastructure components, and cooling system corrosion. These materials—including lead, mercury, cadmium, copper, and zinc—are embedded in components such as circuit boards, batteries, and pipes, and can be released into the environment through improper disposal or industrial processes.

Primary Sources of Heavy Metals
IT Equipment and E-Waste: Servers, networking gear, and storage devices contain heavy metals in their printed circuit boards and power supplies, including lead, mercury, and cadmium. As AI drives faster equipment refresh cycles, this volume of e-waste grows.

Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) Batteries: Large-scale lead-acid batteries are commonly used for backup power. They represent a significant source of lead, which can be released if not managed under proper hazardous waste recycling programs.

Cooling System Corrosion: Closed-loop cooling systems often use water-based coolants that, over time, cause piping and components to degrade, releasing trace heavy metals like copper, zinc, and occasionally lead into the water.

Infrastructure Components: Older facilities may have raised floors, cable baskets, or conduit pipes that are galvanized with zinc, which can produce zinc whiskers—tiny metal particles that can cause electrical failures and introduce contaminants.

Construction and External Contaminants: Dust from concrete, which can contain heavy metal components, can enter the facility. Other external sources include air pollution and sea salt if the facility uses "free cooling" (direct outside air).

How Heavy Metals Become Contaminants
Wastewater Discharge (Blow-down): Cooling towers and closed-loop systems use corrosion inhibitors. Periodic "blow-down" or discharge of this treated water can carry heavy metals at concentrations thousands of times higher than surface water limits.

Improper Disposal: If old servers, CRT monitors, or batteries are discarded as general waste rather than being processed by certified R2 or e-Stewards recyclers, these heavy metals can leach into landfills and groundwater

Component Degradation: Over time, cooling system components can break down, releasing materials into the water and air.

https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/sustainability/4-strategies-for-eliminating-data-center-water-pollution
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
54938 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:49 am to
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The new quad chips will make this obsolete in a few years.

The quad chips won’t need buildings, cooling and infrastructure?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17602 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 10:52 am to
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Where do heavy metals come from in a data center?

Probably filter backwash/ reverse osmosis reject.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45762 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:12 pm to
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IT Equipment and E-Waste: Servers, networking gear, and storage devices contain heavy metals in their printed circuit boards and power supplies, including lead, mercury, and cadmium. As AI drives faster equipment refresh cycles, this volume of e-waste grows.



What does this have to do with groundwater in what you posted?

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Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) Batteries: Large-scale lead-acid batteries are commonly used for backup power. They represent a significant source of lead, which can be released if not managed under proper hazardous waste recycling programs.


See above.

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Cooling System Corrosion: Closed-loop cooling systems often use water-based coolants that, over time, cause piping and components to degrade, releasing trace heavy metals like copper, zinc, and occasionally lead into the water.


But not strontium.

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nfrastructure Components: Older facilities may have raised floors, cable baskets, or conduit pipes that are galvanized with zinc, which can produce zinc whiskers—tiny metal particles that can cause electrical failures and introduce contaminants.


See the first two.

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Wastewater Discharge (Blow-down): Cooling towers and closed-loop systems use corrosion inhibitors. Periodic "blow-down" or discharge of this treated water can carry heavy metals at concentrations thousands of times higher than surface water limits.


Again, not strontium.

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Improper Disposal: If old servers, CRT monitors, or batteries are discarded as general waste rather than being processed by certified R2 or e-Stewards recyclers, these heavy metals can leach into landfills and groundwater

Component Degradation: Over time, cooling system components can break down, releasing materials into the water and air.


Again, neither of these have anything to do with what you posted.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45762 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Probably filter backwash/ reverse osmosis reject.

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Even if this was true, that's an issue with already contaminated ground water. Not something the data center itself contributes to.

Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14198 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:22 pm to
Your screenshot is dumb. The Nvidia chips are on devices that get upgraded within the data center. A piece of equipment within the data center getting upgraded doesn't mean the data center is obsolete.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
7391 posts
Posted on 4/14/26 at 12:27 pm to
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Sounds like that TX county that luckily heard about that moslim town and able to shut it down.


Epic city has been renamed "the meadow"...it's ongoing.
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