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re: AP: Obama did in fact meet with Gen Kelly after son's death

Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay



I had several brothers killed in Afghanistan or Iraq in the years right after 9/11 and all of their families received condolence phone calls from 42 within days of the death.

A group breakfast 6 months later does not pay the respect that sacrifice deserves, regardless of who is POTUS


I will let this post answer the question for me personally.
Posted by Mynadsitch78
Member since Jun 2017
74 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:00 pm to
Jesus lol. He really has libs rattled.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

You conveniently left out the part where he said other presidents did not call. That’s the derogatory part that you left out.


Are you saying if a President didn't call then that would be upsetting? If not, how is that statement derogatory?

Regardless, you clearly have not read the entire transcript. He clarified to make it non-derogatory. Specifically saying that other Presidents did hinge other ways. He realized what he said could be taken the wrong way and corrected it. Surprise surprise...here you are reacting just how Trump knew you would.

Again....this would not be a story at all....not one person would have thought twice about it had you rabid lefties not flipped out over such an inconsequential statement.

Well done.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117194 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

meet with Gen Kelly


These threads are driving me nuts. I keep wanting to say 'Yeah, he was a great dancer but he's been dead for a long time.'
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Regardless, you clearly have not read the entire transcript. He clarified to make it non-derogatory.


You realize that he "clarified" his remark only after he was called out on his lie by a reporter at the press conference?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23095 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:07 pm to
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Nah, he just invited him to the White House... so disrespectful of that thug POS Obama amiright?


Obama got him killed.


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:07 pm to
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was called out on his lie by a reporter at the press conference?


Turns out it wasn't a lie. The point remains. Trump, for once, was not trying to be controversial. But you liberals are so rabid you couldn't let a chance to have a "gotcha" slip by. Now it is biting you in the arse. Your own OP proves it. 6 months for an invite to a group meal? You guys have gone insane. Breath. You'll never make it through the next 7 years at this rate.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67258 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:08 pm to
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You realize that he "clarified" his remark only after he was called out on his lie by a reporter at the press conference?


You realize that the breakfast you and the AP are pimping is not a call, but a breakfast for all gold star families 6 months after the son died?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

First you are claiming that Trump saying other Presidents didn't call was a derogatory statement, then you are trying to claim that no big deal that Obama didn't call because he had Kelly over for a breakfast instead.

I did not say anything about Obama in this thread. You will, of course, down vote this. But. To me where I commented on Obama in this thread.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26372 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:15 pm to
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You will, of course, down vote this.


You should try being a moderate. The downvotes start to feel good after a while.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:16 pm to
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Obama aides said it was difficult this many years later to determine if he had also called Kelly,

So he could have called. And well before the dinner.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:18 pm to
you might want to get your facts straight on Bergdahl.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16907 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:23 pm to
Trumps response.

This is not a joke, this is his actual response when challenged about this.

Let’s begin with Trump’s words at the news conference. He was asked, “Why haven’t we heard anything from you so far about the soldiers that were killed in Niger?” and he replied that he had written letters to the families, though those letters hadn’t yet been sent, and that he’d be calling them at some point. Then came this:

“So, the traditional way — if you look at President Obama and other Presidents, most of them didn’t make calls, a lot of them didn’t make calls. I like to call when it’s appropriate, when I think I’m able to do it.”

A few minutes later, another reporter circled back to this question, asking how Trump could claim that Obama didn’t call the families of fallen soldiers. Here’s part of his response:

“I don’t know if he did. No, no, no, I was told that he didn’t often. And a lot of Presidents don’t; they write letters. I do…

“President Obama I think probably did sometimes, and maybe sometimes he didn’t. I don’t know. That’s what I was told. All I can do — all I can do is ask my generals. Other Presidents did not call. They’d write letters. And some Presidents didn’t do anything. But I like the combination of — I like, when I can, the combination of a call and also a letter.”

It’s obvious from his responses that Trump had absolutely no idea what presidents before him did or didn’t do in this situation, which he admitted again today (“I don’t know what Obama’s policy was”). But he went ahead and claimed that only he calls the families.

This is quite familiar to anyone who has been watching Trump these past couple of years. He takes his own limited experience and characterizes it as unique, extraordinary and unprecedented. No one has ever done this before, no one has accomplished so much, no one knows more than I do. There’s an element of the salesman’s puffery at work, but it also comes from a place of pure ignorance.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37260 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Was he throwing a little shade and implying that his way was better ? Yes. But who gives a frick?
Clearly you don't.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

It sucks that Kelly has to re-live the death of his son because Trump wants to save face for a stupid statement he made, but it's who he is.



You are such a moron. Do you really think that Trump didn't consult with Kelly before he used him as an example. You are seriously dumb.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
58671 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:25 pm to
You are proving my point. He was not intending to be controversial. He said he was told Obama didn't make calls but that he didn't know.

He was being honest. Yet the rabid left turned it into a gotcha. Even after reading what you posted you are here saying he said something inappropriate. The lefts mouth foaming made a story out of nothing...and it is now backfiring.

How can saying he doesn't know who did or didn't but he was told Obama and others wrote letters be controversial?

What, specifically, do you nut jobs take offense to?
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79374 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:27 pm to
Do you seriously think you and the lib filth media would give POTUS Trump the same pass had he not met with Gen Kelly until 6 months later?

Hell no you and the lib filth media would not. You all would be bashing him on how cold hearted he was a find a way to blame him for the death...

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Yet the rabid left turned it into a gotcha.

Hell, they'd try to turn a comment on the weather by Trump into a rapid gotcha.

"Today, Trump said it was hot and muggy. According to our reporting, it was warm and humid. How could he be so out of touch with the American people, and such a liar. Here with more, Bernie Sanders and for the Republican view on this, Hillary Clinton."
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Do you really think that Trump didn't consult with Kelly before he used him as an example.
Of course not. Everybody know Trump is anything but reactionary and impulsive, consulting all points of views and relevant parties and putting his own self-interests aside before responding.

And it's not like Kelly has been known to be very private about his loss, or just in general or anything.

I'm sure 7 years later Kelly was like "use my dead son to get back at the MSM and Obama. 2 birds, 1 stone." In fact, I bet Trump was the cautious one here and said "John, I don't want to put my self-interests in front of anybody else's."
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27380 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Obama aides said it was difficult this many years later to determine if he had also called Kelly,
So we are to now left to believe that the NSA/IC tracks metadata on every US citizen, all foreign diplomats and a substantial portion of our enemies...but cant check Obama's blackberry for recent calls
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 3:46 pm
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