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Apparently most American's don't understand inflation rate vs affordability.

Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:08 am
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6682 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:08 am
I do our shopping. In general grocery prices do suck. But most of the price increase was from 2020 to 2024, when a $100 in groceries surged to roughly $140.

It was during that period that inflation was near double digits. Now its about 2%.

But we are to believe that we should vote democrats back in because Trump has yet to ROLL BACK prices to where they were before Biden.

If you look at housing and rent, basically the same story.

Normally, we don't have deflation in this country unless we are in depression. So its much easier to influence prices upwards than downwards.

Supposedly, according to the Democrats, this 2% inflation is due to tariffs when the 9% inflation under them (without tarrifs) is apparently not worth talking about.

Thier argument to the voters is paper thin; basically nonsensical reasoning on inflation and protection for illegal migrants with criminal records.

Thats all I see. If im wrong, please explain it to me.

Oh, i forgot. Epstien.
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 11:11 am
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
9103 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:09 am to
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Oh, i forgot. Epstien.


nice straightforward post, glad you just barely saved it at the end
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6682 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:11 am to
So that should be the deciding issue? Not for me buddy.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73646 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:12 am to
Voters want outright deflation, which will cause a huge recession and layoffs

Dumb asses
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6682 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:14 am to
We've actually seen some in energy and housing, though I have yet to see $2.00 gas. Still looking for that :-).
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27358 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:19 am to
We're in this mess because our citizens are too dumb to realize printing tons of covid bucks so people could stay home from work would have downstream effects.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8100 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:26 am to
You are correct in my estimation, as well.

Yes, Epstein matters but I’m of the opinion the whole contraption is/was a joint Mossad/CIA venture. The US cannot come clean on this as the real issue isn’t as much the powerful people as it is the US aligning with an Israeli operation to gain leverage. For Israelis the US is just goy livestock and a means to an end, but for the US to willingly participate is evil as it gets. So I expect no resolution.

Inflation.
Economy.
Borders.
Foreign policy.
Tax reformation.
Tax payers being defrauded.

All take more of a precedent.

Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9513 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 11:41 am to
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Apparently most American's don't understand inflation rate vs affordability.


It looks like it’s you who doesn’t understand the term inflation. It’s really no more than the increase in the supply of currency without any value backing it (gold, oil contracts, land).

Since there’s about 24 Trillion in circulation worldwide, and we print 2 Trillion valueless dollars per year, inflation is 8% per year.

Prices of individual commodities depend on a lot of things. They don’t go up parallel to inflation, they bubble then the bubble bursts, and are extremely impacted by how .gov lies about the accounting

What happened in September 2009 didn’t happen because of housing policy over just the previous three months.

The policy of the current President - printing 2T per year more than revenue - is exactly the same as the President before him, and the President before him. Ultimately the bubble they are causing will burst
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2028 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:00 pm to
This time isn't just about inflation, also you can't tell people how to feel about inflation

Things He promised and failure on how He delivered, those are more of a factor this time.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1642 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:08 pm to
Prices are never going to roll back to 1990’s for virtually everything because the damage has already been done but these fools never learn. Just wait until millions of new immigrants flood the nation and they will because the Left is angry while the right and moderates are tuned out or complacent. Then, they will enact massive spending packages after removing the filibuster or winning enough seats where they don’t have to especially after Trump is out of office. It will make Biden era inflation look like a bump in the road. We as a nation deserve what is coming especially the suburban elites and the moderates who have elected the Don Bacon’s and Lisa Murkowski’s of the current generation. The American public will get what it deserves
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9225 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:14 pm to
Inflation is the expansion of the money supply. That’s it. Prices may go up as a consequence of more money chasing fewer goods, but price increases themselves are not inflation. The political/banker class started confusing the two in the 1960s and 70s as an attempt to shift the blame to businesses.
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 12:17 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41289 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Things He promised and failure on how He delivered, those are more of a factor this time.


What did he literally PROMISE?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6682 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:31 pm to
Saying that inflation is only the expansion of the money supply and that price increases are something different is simply not how inflation is understood or measured in modern economics. Inflation refers to the sustained rise in the general price level because that is what determines purchasing power in everyday life. Money supply growth can be one cause of inflation, but it is not the only one and it does not always produce inflation by itself.

We have clear historical examples where the money supply expanded significantly while inflation stayed low, and other periods where prices rose sharply due to supply shocks, energy disruptions, or sudden demand surges even without unusual monetary expansion. That is why economists, central banks, and statistical agencies measure inflation using price indexes rather than money aggregates alone.

If someone wants to argue about the role of deficits, stimulus timing, or regulatory costs, that is a legitimate debate. But claiming that inflation has nothing to do with the prices people actually pay ignores how purchasing power works in the real economy and oversimplifies a complex issue into a slogan rather than an analysis.
This post was edited on 2/14/26 at 12:33 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6682 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:37 pm to
Modern standard definition (used by central banks and statistical agencies):

quote:

Inflation is a sustained increase in the general price level of goods and services in an economy over time.


This is the definition used by:

the Federal Reserve

the Bureau of Labor Statistics (CPI)

the Bureau of Economic Analysis
(PCE)

the IMF

most modern economics textbooks

They measure inflation by price indexes, because inflation refers to the purchasing power of money, which is determined by prices.
Posted by latigerfan2
covington, la
Member since Jan 2005
2136 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:37 pm to
The cost of goods is never going to retreat back to pre covid levels due to the massive amount of money that was printed during the plandemic. The only way to combat it is to raise income for the working class through business growth and expansion.
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2028 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:42 pm to
Uh, to lower prices on day one, for starters, he hasn't, and this is affecting his poll numbers now.

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10795 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Uh, to lower prices on day one


You guy really struggle understanding rhetoric. Did you also expect a chicken to literally appear in every pot in America?

You know someone has no valid point when they have to fallback on the "day one" argument.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
9451 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:05 pm to
Finally someone who gets it. I wish elected Republicans could explain the current situation as well as you have done.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
24285 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:13 pm to
Inflation has slowed to a reasonable rate, wages are growing faster than inflation, Trump’s efforts are working and the left is scared shitless.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1642 posts
Posted on 2/14/26 at 1:15 pm to
Well, you will get your wish when a Democrat is elected in 28’ but you will disappear or makes excuses as to why the price of everything has increased exponentially when it happens because the days of a non fanatical Leftist leading the Democrat party are over. Imagine the prices of goods and services with 10-20 million more consumers competing with government funded programs for said consumers.
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