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re: Are our naval forces prepared for this?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:32 pm to AustinTigr
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:32 pm to AustinTigr
quote:Exactly! Nothing can stand up to our trannies and diversity. We will defeat them with our non-gendered pronouns!!
Sonic-schmonic. What is a super sonic anti-ship missile next to the power of a diverse and inclusive military? Better get your priorities straight, mister!
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:22 pm to Taxing Authority
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I get what you’re saying but I think there’s a difference between what the Reds sell us and what they develop for their own use.
The Reds do not develop.
They steal when available. They are at least 15-20 years away from stealth.
I liked the first sentence of the article ....."May have developed." Means it flies like a North Korean drone.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:23 pm to BFIV
Diversity is our strength.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:50 pm to bluedragon
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They steal when available. They are at least 15-20 years away from stealth.
Who would they steal hypersonic missles from?
Certainly not the US.
They can just buy them from Russia or buy the tech from them because that's who has developed them while we waste money on outdated carriers.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:51 pm to BFIV
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Do we have anything in our closet or in development to neutralize or equalize this threat?
If China/Russia has it now, that means we've had it for 10-20 years.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:52 pm to Taxing Authority
The leadership will keep starting fights, and losing wars until they find someone they can defeat.
I guess we're next?
I guess we're next?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:52 pm to bluedragon
Housing thousands of drones in Taiwan and Japan would be way to go. Of course we just had a drone stolen by the Taliban that has surely by now already been examined by the Chinese military, giving them insights in to how to jam them and make improvements on their own.
You’d have to assume many of our satellites can be taken out. So ground based triangulation for navigation as a backup to satellites
We’d want to be able to disable their internet and much of their power grid immediately plus figure out how to protect ours.
I hope we’re innovating into asymmetric warfare fast enough. I fear the generals and admirals are stuck in early 2000’s warfare concepts
You’d have to assume many of our satellites can be taken out. So ground based triangulation for navigation as a backup to satellites
We’d want to be able to disable their internet and much of their power grid immediately plus figure out how to protect ours.
I hope we’re innovating into asymmetric warfare fast enough. I fear the generals and admirals are stuck in early 2000’s warfare concepts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:05 pm to VoxDawg
If that's the case why did we have to rely on russian rocket engines for space flight until recently?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:05 pm to BFIV
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Are our naval forces prepared for this?
No. This is what happens when the cancer of “woke” progressive politics and an emphasis on diversity instead of competency infects your military.
Navy Surface Fleet Unprepared To Win Future Conflict, Watchdog Finds
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:12 pm to BFIV
We did but we left it in Afghanistan.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:16 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:More likely that we sold it to them.
Though, they may have stolen.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:18 pm to BFIV
Yeah ok, I get that they have this technology. But who would deny that our Military has the most trans- friendly compulsory Dance Therapy training?
Harris 24 !
Harris 24 !
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:25 pm to BFIV
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Do we have anything in our closet or in development to neutralize or equalize this threat?
Ever seen a missile frigate? They are picket ships around the carrier group that track and destroy inbound threats of all kinds. We also have developed anti missile technology for ICBMs which are super sonic.
If something gets past that they have computer guided electronic fired gatling guns that fire 3600 rounds per min which are designed to lay a wall of lead in the path of a projectile.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:26 pm to BFIV
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China has developed long range, super sonic anti-ship missiles that have a much greater range than our harpoon missiles as well as anything in our current arsenal for over the horizon anti-ship weaponry.
The advanced weapons that China is currently deploying are primarily US technology. You can thank every politician that was serving in Congress between 1992-2016 for the rise of China. There are currently dozens of congressional members with over 20 years of service who voted on legislation to frick America over and strengthen China…..I’m sure they all have their favorite corporate lobbyists that influenced their selling out of America.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:07 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Ever seen a missile frigate? They are picket ships around the carrier group that track and destroy inbound threats of all kinds. We also have developed anti missile technology for ICBMs which are super sonic.
If something gets past that they have computer guided electronic fired gatling guns that fire 3600 rounds per min which are designed to lay a wall of lead in the path of a projectile.
A carrier group costs around 30 billion. How many missiles can you build for half that and if you launch them all at once against a carrier group what do you think is gonna happen?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:11 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Come on man, Joe Biden is our Commander in Chief. The Chinese aren't going to mess with us when we have leadership like that.
Plus his son Beau was in the Navy didn't you hear. That gives Biden light-years of advantage over the Chinese.
Ol Joe has also had experience and gone toe to toe with Cornpop! Cornpop was a bad dude!
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:38 pm to rooster108bm
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Carrier battle groups are no longer effective against near peer engagements as has been proven in war games with allies.
Not arguing that. My argument is that this is not the system that has created that problem. I think the Carrier Group is almost if not already obsolete based on drone swarms alone. That plus loitering munitions and such and there's just no way to not get hit. But these hypersonic missiles are not the carrier killers they'd love for everyone to believe because of the problem with that plasma and targeting and adjusting fast enough at the end of the flight to the actual position of the target. They're going too fast. It's cool on paper and it would probably make for a good enough way to hit a carrier group with nukes, but not conventional weapons you'd have to put on the target.
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:17 am to rooster108bm
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If that's the case why did we have to rely on russian rocket engines for space flight until recently?
I'd guess it's a manifold answer:
* Allow the private sector space operations time to catch up/develop
* Don't tip our hand to technology available, since those launches are very public
* MIL/USSF could have their own remote launch facilities
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:20 am to BFIV
Never fear, Joe and the Ho has got this...
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:22 am to BFIV
Our diversity is the best defense against hypersonic missiles!!!
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