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Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:41 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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sudden death of young healthy vaccinated athletes
“Healthy” and “vaccinated” do not go together. It’s either one or the other.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:42 pm to RobbBobb
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Definitely not that he was boosted recently, right?
not definitely anything.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:56 pm to Liberator
quote:Yeah - I bet ole Bubba has his Troponin machine set up right next grease guns.
It's 50/50 at this point.
What's worse? An injection of STP? OR, Dr. FauciStein's IV Boosters?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 6:27 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 1/3/23 at 6:41 pm to Kjnstkmn
quote:What's that got to do with going to an ER v. Used car dealer if you were having a heart attack?
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 8:29 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:10 pm to Liberator
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The NFL etal are in a oddly precarious position if there happens to be even one more case of so-called "commotio cordis" Or similar incident on OR off the field.
I could be wrong but I believe football is slated for elimination as a competitive sport within 10 years. This has to do with “fostering toxic masculinity” and so forth. A commotio diagnosis supports this narrative fully and it will especially do so if this was the vaxx (which would support the eventual liklihood of another such event).
I will say this as well- if I turn out to be correct in this, the lack of football will be the very least of your problems.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:38 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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the extreme rarity especially with such a minor collision)…
After the impact, he rose from prone to standing and took five steps.
Not a minor collision and either he or I have a vision problem if he saw 5 steps.
Why would he screw up the (inconvenient) facts?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:46 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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He had a 200lb man lower his shoulder right into his chest at speed.
Watch the replay. The WR was running parallel to Hamlin, then cut, ran 2 steps, and hit Hamlin.
No one cuts at almost a 90 degree angle and gets to top speed in 2 steps.
Also, Hamlin's feet were not planted so he did not absorb the full hit.
If this hit could cause this problem at this minor speed, then why don't more boxers die, They are getting hit a lot of times and it seems at least one of those hits would cause this problem during a 10 round match.
Hamlin did not get hit severely. A severe blow is needed to cause the heart to stop.
I pray the young man makes it, but we need to know the truth as to what caused the cardiac arrest and NOT assume the vax is innocent or guilty.
If Hamlin passes away and they do not investigate protein spikes within his body, then they are not searching for the truth. All possibilities need to be investigated so the people can be educated.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:49 pm to GumboPot
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But if you hit with the right force with the right angle to the right location at the right time the potential for commotio cordis is there. That's what everyone is speculating at this point.
...then why haven't there been more deaths in boxing from hard blows with the right force with the right angle to the right location at the right time.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:54 pm to GumboPot
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This not a common issue but an issue that seems to happen every other year on little league baseball fields. When I was a kid (7 or 8) my friend's older brother at age 10 died of commotio cordis in the outfield during a little league baseball game. The ball struck him in the center of the chest and knocked his heart out of rhythm.
I assure you, getting hit with a baseball hurts a LOT more than getting hit by a receiver who is trying to NOT get tackled. In this case the WR was NOT at full speed. He just came out of a cut and took 2 steps. This is way less force than a player going full speed, then hitting the person.
Would this event have happened if Hamlin did NOT take the vax? Could the vax have made him more susceptible to this event occurring?
JJ Watt just retired because he suffered a cardiac Arrest. He lived. If he continued to play I suspect he would be more likely to suffer a cardiac arrest if he got hit in the chest.
Hamlin could have been having slight heart issues, but not know it.
JW found out AFTER he had a CA.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:59 pm to jp4lsu
COVID shot causes myocarditis. Myocarditis in a person predisposed to arrhythmia is a deadly combination.
Thanks for saving all the players mandating COVID vaccines Goodell.
Thanks for saving all the players mandating COVID vaccines Goodell.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 5:03 am to obdobd918
quote:FYI, JJWatt did not suffer cardiac arrest. Watt had an episode of atrial fibrillation. He was countershocked and played that Sunday.
JJ Watt just retired because he suffered a cardiac Arrest.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 8:59 am to NC_Tigah
I remember the Big Ten and Kevin Warren getting crucified for wanting to shut down football during Covid because of the increased risk of, you guessed it, heart attacks to young athletes.
It's obvious we knew there was a problem, yet people want to deny the problem exists.
Whether it is Covid or the jab that is causing this one thing I do know is that it did not exist until China released Covid out of the lab in Wuhan.
China is to blame for all of this. Another truth that is obvious yet our leaders deny and refuse to hold them accountable for releasing the Covid scourge on the world.
It's obvious we knew there was a problem, yet people want to deny the problem exists.
Whether it is Covid or the jab that is causing this one thing I do know is that it did not exist until China released Covid out of the lab in Wuhan.
China is to blame for all of this. Another truth that is obvious yet our leaders deny and refuse to hold them accountable for releasing the Covid scourge on the world.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/4/23 at 9:26 am to SoDakHawk
quote:Many of our leaders were involved or complicit. The fact China deliberately released CV19 internationally is indisputable. It is unassailable fact. DC's universal silence about China's actions should send a chilling message to all of us.
China is to blame for all of this. Another truth that is obvious yet our leaders deny and refuse to hold them accountable for releasing the Covid scourge on the world.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 9:30 am to obdobd918
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then why haven't there been more deaths in boxing from hard blows with the right force with the right angle to the right location at the right time.
Pretty rare to get struck directly in the chest with that degree of force in boxing. And even so, the timing for commotio cordis to occur is CRAZY small. Literally talking milliseconds here.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 9:34 am to WaWaWeeWa
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It has to be a very focal force over the heart that depresses the rib cage into the heart. Shoulder pads disperse the force over a large area and him being 24 makes it less likely that his bones are pliable enough to bend inwards.
Shoulder pads aren't unassailable. Dude took a hit directly to the chest from a bigger WR running full tilt with a lowered shoulder.
Not the hardest hit in the NFL by any means, but if we're talking the type of hit that could potentially cause such, that's exactly the type that would fit the bill.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:12 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:All true.
Not the hardest hit in the NFL by any means, but if we're talking the type of hit that could potentially cause such, that's exactly the type that would fit the bill.
There some confounding facts though.
First, the player was able to roll over, and hop to his feet prior to the collapse. Though possible with rapid transition from an initial malignant pulse-generating rhythm (e.g., V-tach) to V-fib as he stood up, it's certainly 'out there' in terms of probability.
Second, and even more important, the family says DH had to be resuscitated a second time at the hospital. If their statement is accurate, a second cardiac event is really not diagnostically compatible with commotio cordis and an otherwise healthy heart.
Posted on 1/4/23 at 11:48 am to NC_Tigah
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Second, and even more important, the family says DH had to be resuscitated a second time at the hospital. If their statement is accurate, a second cardiac event is really not diagnostically compatible with commotio cordis and an otherwise healthy heart.
That statement was corrected. He was only resuscitated once.
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