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re: California fires
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:12 am to GnashRebel
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:12 am to GnashRebel
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Dry weather, high winds off the ocean, bad land management.
Feel bad for the people. Losing all your stuff is traumatic. Damn winds are too high to use aircraft they said.
Winds were/are coming from the north and now the Northeast (Santa Ana-Santana-Devil Winds)
Planes aren't flying due to Biden arriving in the area.
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:13 am to Lake08
Texas has had some, they are mostly in areas where there are more cows than people but none the less they cause wide spread damage. Last year a broken power pole caused a fire in the panhandle that burned over 1 million acres, killed 2 people, burned 185 homes, and killed over 15,000 head of cattle.
When conditions are right there isn't much man can do to stop mother nature, fires were burning off the landscapes long before we arrived here. We can mitigate the risk which CA does a poor job of doing for the most part.
When conditions are right there isn't much man can do to stop mother nature, fires were burning off the landscapes long before we arrived here. We can mitigate the risk which CA does a poor job of doing for the most part.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:14 am to Athis
And do you know where she was when the fires broke out? Ghana. Taking right from Teedy’s playbook.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:16 am to Athis
Karen Bass, reap.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:18 am to GnashRebel
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Dry weather, high winds off the ocean, bad land management.
Feel bad for the people. Losing all your stuff is traumatic. Damn winds are too high to use aircraft they said.
My sympathy has been eaten up by all the negativity that has come out of California over the past 25 years that has spread like an infection in our society ruining families.
I apologize if I dont cry about this.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:35 am to Lake08
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:41 am to SloaneRanger
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would like to see some honest, comprehensive reporting on what Cali has been doing to prevent and prepare for these fires. Are they using controlled burns and other sensible forestry practices?
It’s almost impossible to get a burn permit in CA due to air quality regulations, I have a buddy that lives in NoCAL that is in his 50’s. He said a 5K acre fire back in the 80’s was a big deal. The environmentalist have caused the issue to spin out of control. People can’t even remove brush from around their homes without getting permits.
Fires going to happen regardless but mitigation is the key.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:47 am to Lake08
Because they have been run by liberal idiots.
Make no mistake, 99% of these fires are completely preventable. There are other areas in the world that have the exact same geography and climate that don't burn to the ground all the time.
California does not maintain fire break lanes because they are "destroying nature", they have electrical infrastructure that is over 70 years old that cannot be maintained because of limited access and because of government regulations. For instance, much of this could be avoided if they would bury lines in the ground vs have them cascading, yet they can't because of environmental protection litigation. So they burn.
They have also diverting natural water flow from all over that state, one of which Trump brought attention to with the river diversion to the Pacific to save an evasive species of fish.
Make no mistake, 99% of these fires are completely preventable. There are other areas in the world that have the exact same geography and climate that don't burn to the ground all the time.
California does not maintain fire break lanes because they are "destroying nature", they have electrical infrastructure that is over 70 years old that cannot be maintained because of limited access and because of government regulations. For instance, much of this could be avoided if they would bury lines in the ground vs have them cascading, yet they can't because of environmental protection litigation. So they burn.
They have also diverting natural water flow from all over that state, one of which Trump brought attention to with the river diversion to the Pacific to save an evasive species of fish.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:47 am to Lsupimp
quote:
Geography. Climate.
Santa Ana winds meet fire meets real estate.
progressive elected officials at every level of state government
'no dead brush and debris clearing' policies (it will hurt Mother Nature's feelings!!!!!)
stupid fricking enviro-wacko policies that divert the water from up north into the ocean instead of letting it fill reservoirs down state
did i mention shitty elected officials? i feel like i need to mention that twice.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:51 am to Lake08
Louisiana had wildfires last summer
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:51 am to jaytothen
Cali could use a good hurricane now
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:53 am to Lake08
Aren't climate change policies pretty starkly contradictory to forest fire prevention policies?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:59 am to Lake08
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Why does this always happen in California vs other states? Can’t remember last time TX or LA had fires
It happens everywhere. There are spattings of big fire breakouts in places like AZ and NM and parts of the Midwest/Bible Belt pretty often too, but they just don't get as much attention because they are typically breaking out away from dense populations of humans.
I liken building a home in that area of California to building a home in Moore/Norman, Oklahoma. You get yourself a domicile anywhere along the I-40 and I-44 corridors of central OK and sure, you can get a very reasonably affordable dwelling around mostly nice people, but eventually you're going to deal with a Biblical EF5:tornado bearing down on you.
Nature is undefeated and yet we continue to push into places where she kicked our asses over and over again. It is what it is.
But more to the California thing, the residents of the area need to rise up and demand answers. For two decades, they've been paying taxes to have a series of reservoirs impounded in those areas of California for both drinking water and firefighting use, but not even one single lake, pond or tank has been built. Not one. They should be tarring and feathering their (s)elected representation. They also should participate actively in telling the hippie tree huggers to frick off, and supporting decluttering, deadfall removal and controlled burns in the forests like the Navajo do in Northern Arizona. It makes a big difference.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:06 am to Lake08
50,000 acres of Beauregard and Vernon parish burned in the summer of 2023 for the same reason California has problems. Dead wood left on the ground just waiting for a spark. Hurricane Laura in 2020 put hundreds of thousands of pine trees on the ground and timber companies left them to rot because it wasn’t profitable to clean it up. Couple that with forestry companies no longer practicing regular control burns and this is what you get.
The Louisiana fires were started by arson, but were so big and hard to put out due to the overwhelming amount of fuel on the ground.
The Louisiana fires were started by arson, but were so big and hard to put out due to the overwhelming amount of fuel on the ground.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:07 am to Lake08
Let's ask MTG. Those Jewish space lasers aren't going to reveal themselves!
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:17 pm to Lake08
It is t just California. Most mountain west states have problems. Hell, 1/2 of Colorado burned a few years ago.
Take a look at the east troublesome fire in Colorado.
Take a look at the east troublesome fire in Colorado.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:23 pm to Seldom Seen
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God is punishing them.
Maybe we need to be more like Elihu and less like Eliphaz.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:32 pm to SloaneRanger
Well, her lesbian fire chief has things under control.
And that is what is important. That we have the first LBGT representative leading the charge.
And that is what is important. That we have the first LBGT representative leading the charge.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:36 pm to Houag80
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I dont wish this upon anyone, regardless of how they vote.
Same - but at what point to Cali residents wake up and realize they are voting for people that make things much worse than they ought to be?
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