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re: Christians: “The only thing more powerful than hate is love“
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:28 am to CatahoulaCur
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:28 am to CatahoulaCur
"Love" to the left means enabling bad and sinful behavior.
ETA: Not celebrating it is "hate".
ETA: Not celebrating it is "hate".
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 9:29 am
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:30 am to CatahoulaCur
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It’s sad to see a quote like this cause such divisive emotions,
The quote isn't causing divisive emotions, it is the disingenuous platitude of those saying it that is causing the reactions. You can't sit there and say that is our message and then the next day shout all republicans are fascists and death to fascists. You can't cheer on the assassination attempts on Trump and the successful one on Charlie Kirk and then have this message. You can't be supportive of policies up until the point the other side is using them, and then start rioting and burning down cities for doing nothing more than following the policies that are in place.
conservatives don't have a problem with that message, they have a problem with being the only ones that seem to be required to actually follow it and be lectured to by those that their entire platform revolves around division.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:31 am to theballguy
I agree with you that rule-following can be anti-spiritual — Jesus criticized the Pharisees for exactly that, and Paul says the Law can diagnose sin but can’t heal it.
Where I think the “believe or else God will torture you” framing misses the mark is Romans 1. Paul’s argument isn’t that God gets angry and starts punishing people for failing a belief test. He says humanity already turns away from what is good and true, and God’s judgment is described as “giving them over” to the path they’ve chosen — letting sin run its course rather than actively inflicting harm. That’s judgment as release, not rage.
So the gospel isn’t “be moral or burn,” and it isn’t “rules = spirituality.” It’s an offer of transformation and healing in a world already bent toward self-destruction. If what you’re rejecting is a transactional evangelical pitch, I get it — but that pitch isn’t actually Paul’s theology.
Where I think the “believe or else God will torture you” framing misses the mark is Romans 1. Paul’s argument isn’t that God gets angry and starts punishing people for failing a belief test. He says humanity already turns away from what is good and true, and God’s judgment is described as “giving them over” to the path they’ve chosen — letting sin run its course rather than actively inflicting harm. That’s judgment as release, not rage.
So the gospel isn’t “be moral or burn,” and it isn’t “rules = spirituality.” It’s an offer of transformation and healing in a world already bent toward self-destruction. If what you’re rejecting is a transactional evangelical pitch, I get it — but that pitch isn’t actually Paul’s theology.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:33 am to CatahoulaCur
not mad at the message if you take it at face value. I think the issue is that when the masses push this idea of "love" they're often conflating it with tolerance which is inherently opposed to love. Tolerating unrighteousness is the opposite of love: apathy. Love would be refusing to turn your back on the current state while still demanding improvement.
On the other hand, I don't believe hate is actually all that powerful. Love, regardless of the kind (unconditional, friendship, familial, and romantic) are all leaps and bounds more powerful than hatred. I'd argue that fear is a much more dangerous state than hatred.
On the other hand, I don't believe hate is actually all that powerful. Love, regardless of the kind (unconditional, friendship, familial, and romantic) are all leaps and bounds more powerful than hatred. I'd argue that fear is a much more dangerous state than hatred.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:35 am to imjustafatkid
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True enough, but it seems worth it to point out that's what he's doing, which is why I asked him for specifics.
Yeah I wasnt criticizing your post at all. Im more or less calling myself a fool for falling into these arguments far too often by not demanding specifics
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:43 am to CatahoulaCur
That statement is coming from the most hateful individuals on the planet. So it’s hypocrisy as usual from the left.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:48 am to BarnHater
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True Christians were watching Kid Rock perform last night.
L.O.L.
What is "Christian" about Kid Rock? Have you ever even heard his music? Have you listened to him speak, about anything? The most conservative thing he ever did was to boycott Bud Light for three weeks before drinking it again. The most "Christian" thing he ever did was write a song called 'Only God Knows Why' to complain about his immense fame that he still didn't feel was immense enough.
Man, this country is LOST.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:50 am to wackatimesthree
There’s nothing disingenuous about it. Assuming you’re an evangelical, this is exactly what you guys believe. And based on that, this is what my honest conclusion is.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:54 am to CatahoulaCur
Because like many scriptures, Satan will ever so slightly skew the meaning. Look at this example of when Jesus was in the wilderness. Satan “quoted “ scripture to Him in an effort to deceive Him. He actually misquoted it to fit his narrative. This is the same thing that is happening here. Using the word “love” in a deceiving manner.
We, as Christian’s are called to love one another in a Godly manner, not in the phelio type, but in the agape type of love. There is where the misunderstanding lies.
We, as Christian’s are called to love one another in a Godly manner, not in the phelio type, but in the agape type of love. There is where the misunderstanding lies.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:56 am to CatahoulaCur
The issue is the message was insincere, and even antagonistic.
For one, it's being delivered by a bunch of people intent on holding others to a standard that they themselves do not hold.
Two, their definition of love is a big different than others. I don't hate immigrants. In fact I think we need immigrants. But we cannot maintain our current immigrations policies and a reset is needed. This country is being taken advantage of and some people are masking that fact and muddying the waters by trying to claim that I should love and welcome the people taking advantage of me.
For one, it's being delivered by a bunch of people intent on holding others to a standard that they themselves do not hold.
Two, their definition of love is a big different than others. I don't hate immigrants. In fact I think we need immigrants. But we cannot maintain our current immigrations policies and a reset is needed. This country is being taken advantage of and some people are masking that fact and muddying the waters by trying to claim that I should love and welcome the people taking advantage of me.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:11 am to CatahoulaCur
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Soon I will pour out my fury on you and unleash my anger on you. I will judge you for the way you have lived, and I will punish you for all the detestable things that you have done. 9 I will not have compassion or feel sorry. I will pay you back for the way you have lived and for the detestable things that you are still doing. Then you will know that I am the Lord and that I am the one attacking ?you?.
Ezekiel 7:8-9
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The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Proverbs 9:10
Will Jesus continue to love a sinner? Of course. But sinning continuously, without remorse, is a dangerous game to play.
I'd also ask you, are you loving God by encouraging people to sin & be apart from God??
Mark 12:30 states:
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And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:12 am to CatahoulaCur
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When you see these platitudes “love trumps hate”, “love conquers all”, “love is love”… is it not frustrating that these are all coming from left leaning groups.
I see.
Honestly, not to me. Like I posted before, this sort of thing should be expected as a Christian. Christianity is both easily understandable and also very deep.
It's easily understandable from a moral standpoint*—which is why people like Ray Comfort deliberately appeal to people's consciences instead of their intellect—but it's very deep from an intellectual standpoint, which is why you have to dig into the background and use solid hermeneutical and exegetical practices.
And what happens is that people who seek to distort the message for their own purposes use the emotional to obscure both by appealing to emotion instead of morality and cherry picking verses without regard for any solid foundation of interpretation.
This is true whether someone is attempting to justify slavery or sodomy.
The religious leaders back then did the same sort of thing (albeit the framing was somewhat different) when they asked Jesus abut paying taxes. They knew the people hated being under the thumb of Rome and resented the taxes, so they tried to harness that emotion to oppose Jesus, or to put Him in a position of opposing the Roman authorities.
Many scholars think the Angel of the Lord with the drawn sword who tells Joshua that He is neither for him nor against him was Jesus himself. Because Jesus does not take a political position...He has His own agenda, and it will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven, and it involves following Him.
If you are saying that conservatives should try to take the (correct) message of love back by applying it (correctly) to abortion or marriage/family or something of that nature, I have no problem with that concept and don't oppose the effort. But I don't think it's going to be any sort of ideological homerun or anything.
"This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed."
That will be the case whether the word "love" is used correctly or not. They'll just find something else to distort.
*I do think that Christianity is easily understandable from a moral standpoint, but obviously people have hardened their hearts against it.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 10:13 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:22 am to CatahoulaCur
My question is, does this mean we can all love our president as well as our country, now? We no longer “hate” ice?
Is this a slogan or true love?
Is this a slogan or true love?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 10:45 am to TigerAxeOK
Not to mention “I like em underage”… very Christian like.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:26 am to BarnHater
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True Christians were watching Kid Rock perform last night.
LOL! Straight from the W. H. Lyon Fairgrounds in Sioux Falls, SD to the Super Bowl! Nothing says Patriot more than a little bawithabawdabangdabangboogiesaidtheboogywitheboogysaidupjumptheboogie!
First, the Super Bowl show was not good IMHO. But there are a number of them over the years I didn't like either.
It was laughable that Bad Bunny would trigger people so much that they had to have an alternate half time show. I mean, grow a pair and just turn it off at half time if it bothered you so much. It's the Super Bowl. You watch it for the game and the commercials. There have been a lot of shows over the years people didn't like for some reason or another.
First, I do like some of Kid Rock's songs over the years like "Born Free" or "Cowboy" for example. The duet with Cheryl Crow was great! Can't understand a word he says in "Bawitdaba" but it's got that beat!
But Kid Rock as the face of family values and American patriotism? That's laughable.
Have people actually looked at some of his lyrics over the years?
Of course, what people bring up now:
“Cool Daddy Cool,” a song released in 2001.
“On my cellphone I’m paid, G, can’t call me, just page me,” he sings. “Young ladies, young ladies, I like ’em underage, see. Some say that’s statutory / But I say it’s mandatory / My story ain’t that complex, two forties and a Rolex.”
“Cowboy,” “Welcome 2 the Party,” “I Am the Bullgod,” and “So Hott”—are explicit in an adult context only, built around strippers, sex work, drugs, hustlers, and outlaw posturing. "Cool Daddy Cool" is the one that crosses a line and is widely viewed as indefensible.
I mean, why didn't TPUSA just pull Lee Greenwood out of mothballs if you wanted "patriotism".
But Kid Rock?
Leave you with: "So Hott".
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 11:30 am
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:53 am to BarnHater
Donny and all at Maralago seemed to enjoy the Bad Bunny show.
Just saying, but we know he has never read the bible or ever done anything Christian like.
Just saying, but we know he has never read the bible or ever done anything Christian like.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:57 am to CatahoulaCur
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It’s sad to see a quote like this cause such divisive emotions
Good grief, you people who say this are beyond any type of rational discussion
I can not like his music, think the performance was terrible, and wish that someone else was performing while AT THE SAME TIME, NOT hate Bad Bunny.
I honestly don’t even know who he is. shite, up until about 30 minutes before kickoff, I thought Bad Bunny was a damn girl
The whole narrative from the left that if you disagreed with, didn’t like, or didn’t watch the halftime show, then you are a bigoted racist is probably one of the dumbest takes that side of retards has taken since the first Trump administration
Posted on 2/9/26 at 11:59 am to PurpleCrush
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Just saying, but we know he has never read the bible or ever done anything Christian like.
Trump knows the bible front and back. How dare you question his faith.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:02 pm to Gifman
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This is an empty platitude. I’ve never heard a good Christian repeat this phrase because it means nothing.
Exactly. How many examples have we seen of white idiots sharing love and acceptance with minorities only to be killed by those same minorities?
This is one of those sayings that makes people feel good but ultimately means nothing. It's a perfect phrase for people wrapped up in feelings instead of logic.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 12:04 pm to lsufan31
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Not to mention “I like em underage”… very Christian like.
Yeah TPUSA is picking strange bedfellows because of politics, and i don't like it. I loved pretty much everything about the organization when Charlie was the front man, but i don't know what they're thinking now.
When that young man was murdered, it was truly seismic. The event of a generation. I don't think we even realize it yet.
When Nikki Minaj and Kid Rock are "Team TPUSA", I feel obligated to play the proverbial role of "tenth man" and scrutinize until a viable explanation presents itself.
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