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Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:15 am to Dead End
Only thing we know for fact is that the world has always gone through changes. It will always continue to change no matter what we do or don't do. There isn't going to be a way that they can definitively say what we are doing is causing the change or not. They can only speculate. They keep finding out they are wrong about things in science that they thought were proven, all the time.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:18 am to kevg33
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Only thing we know for fact is that the world has always gone through changes
We know more than that.
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There isn't going to be a way that they can definitively say what we are doing is causing the change or not. They can only speculate.
There is quite a lot of space between "only speculate" and "definitively say". You should try and find it.
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They keep finding out they are wrong about things in science that they thought were proven, all the time.
We should not trust science.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:21 am to TaekwondoJesus
quote:When speculation is proposed as fact, when models are tweaked toward a political end, when the claim in this instance is "the science is settled," you're damned straight we should not trust science.
We should not trust science.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:22 am to kevg33
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Only thing we know for fact is that the world has always gone through changes.
While this is fact, that doesn't mean we should be dismissive and stick our heads in the sand about what influences we might have.
Throughout our industrial history we have found environmental impact on the local level and only after it was found and proven did we take action.
There's no reason to think we can't have an impact on a global scale over a longer period. If anything, it could be expected. .
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:30 am to BobBoucher
quote:Fair point.
that doesn't mean we should be dismissive and stick our heads in the sand
In the same regard it does not mean we should unilaterally hamstring our own economy for an indeterminate result with an indeterminate goal
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:51 am to CAD703X
Posted on 12/29/16 at 11:58 am to CAD703X
So what!
Even if true it doesn't matter.
It just means that we will be able to grow more food in places that can't grow food now.
Canada and Siberia will become global farming powerhouses
Sure it will be detrimental to Africa, the Middle East, and Central America, but they are all shitholes already.
Come to think of it, now would be good time to start pinging my congressmen to get us out of The Antarctica Treaty!
Then I could go ahead and buy farmland and beach front property in Antarctica. My descendants would be rich.
Even if true it doesn't matter.
It just means that we will be able to grow more food in places that can't grow food now.
Canada and Siberia will become global farming powerhouses
Sure it will be detrimental to Africa, the Middle East, and Central America, but they are all shitholes already.
Come to think of it, now would be good time to start pinging my congressmen to get us out of The Antarctica Treaty!
Then I could go ahead and buy farmland and beach front property in Antarctica. My descendants would be rich.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/29/16 at 12:47 pm to Loserman
If we're so concerned about rising ocean levels, why isn't there a concerted effort to fortify coastal cities or move development inland?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:03 pm to bluestem75
Actually man has battled the oceans for centuries in an attempt to keep the water out of cities and towns.
I suspect this will continue because the Earth constantly changes. Sea levels change, storms come, land subsides, volcanoes roll out lava and land washes away.
I suspect this will continue because the Earth constantly changes. Sea levels change, storms come, land subsides, volcanoes roll out lava and land washes away.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:20 pm to bluestem75
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If we're so concerned about rising ocean levels, why isn't there a concerted effort to fortify coastal cities or move development inland?
China obviously isn't afraid of Rising Ocean Levels.
They are Building new islands in the South China Sea.
UAE isn't afraid of rising ocean levels They are building new resort islands off their coast.
Man made Global warming is a tool of the Globalists for control.
They use leftist propaganda and fake manipulated data to sell their vision to their toadies and useful fools.
The "climate scientists" are complicit because they are funded by the same leftists in governmental power while mostly being leftists themselves. Any opposing viewpoints are immediately squashed.
Hell 17 state AG's and our current US AG considered whether or not it would be possible to prosecute Climate Change Deniers.
Their endgame is a carbon tax and cap/trade. The carbon tax won't actually reduce carbon emissions but it will allow the control of whole economic industries.
It is all part of a greater Socialist/Globalist one world agenda.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 1:28 pm to doubleb
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I suspect this will continue because the Earth constantly changes. Sea levels change, storms come, land subsides, volcanoes roll out lava and land washes away.
And Climates/Habitats change.
The species that can evolve or master the new realities will survive, those that can't will go extinct.
Life goes on until it doesn't.
None of it matters anyway. A few 100 billion years from now the Universe will go dark.
Nothing we say or do here will matter because life will have long ceased to exist.
Best course of action is to eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.
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