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re: Critical question looking back at 2020 election: Was it winnable for Trump?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:57 am to Jon Ham
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:57 am to Jon Ham
Not only winnable, he was winning.
People can try and continue to ignore but there was no plausible reason to explain several key states randomly suspending counting and then overnight surges of additional ballots breaking almost entirely for one person.
Completely unprecedented and aside from the flimsy water pipe story in Georgia I’ve never heard why the other states felt it necessary to suspend their own respective counts that night.
People can try and continue to ignore but there was no plausible reason to explain several key states randomly suspending counting and then overnight surges of additional ballots breaking almost entirely for one person.
Completely unprecedented and aside from the flimsy water pipe story in Georgia I’ve never heard why the other states felt it necessary to suspend their own respective counts that night.
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:59 am to Jon Ham
If it were not for Covid and resulting drop off ballets and mail in ballets that were allowed in key states, Trump would win the 2020 Electoral College in a landslide.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:00 am to Jon Ham
Solid questions that will continue to go unanswered.
If elections are rigged then why is Trump running again? Unless it’s just a grift on his supporters.
If elections are rigged then why is Trump running again? Unless it’s just a grift on his supporters.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:02 am to Jon Ham
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Critical question looking back at 2020 election: Was it winnable for Trump?
Obviously. If it wasn't winnable they wouldn't have had the cheat infrastructure in place.
But also irrelevant, because it's not 2020. The question is who has the best chance of winning in 2024 against Newsome or the turnip. Trump has done little but damage himself since 2020. I think the turnip would be a close one because he's just so friggin awful, I'm afraid Newsome would not.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:35 am to Jon Ham
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Critical question looking back at 2020 election: Was it winnable for Trump?
Trump was trailing in the polls for months leading up to the election. Right wingers deny the truth and make up bizarre ever-changing fantasies because Trump told them that is what they are supposed to do. And now right wingers enforce and defend this mass delusion very aggressively. Watch. The aggressive defense of the constantly changing fantasy will be displayed right here in this thread.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:37 am to TBoy
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Trump was trailing in the polls for months leading up to the election.
Sorta like 2016. What changed?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:37 am to TBoy
Did the Wisconsin Supreme Court rule that thousands of illegal votes were counted in 2020?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:41 am to Jon Ham
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If 2020 was unwinnable, then 2024 must be unwinnable, in which case why is Trump even running and acting like he can win? Why are we even talking presidential politics?
The mental gymnastics and pretzel logic you have rolling around in your gourd must be pure torture, and then you use that shite rolling around in your gourd to puke out some OP to dismiss the rigged 2020 GE.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:47 am to Jon Ham
quote:Of course. Should have been easy. If he had just told old people to vote remote early and hard. Instead, he told them NOT to...and then they stayed home because of covid.
Was it winnable for Trump?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:49 am to 14&Counting
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Bottom line: Trump ain’t sitting in that chair so he lost.
Right, they’ve already said they rigged it against him with unconstitutional changes to election laws a month before the election is to the intentional release of a man made virus that was developed by our own NIH.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:53 am to Gifman
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In hindsight, Trump’s team should’ve known about what they were up against and done the same thing.
The REPUBLICAN PARTY should have done that. It wasn't Biden's "team" who did it for him it was HIS PARTY.
Trump's Party deliberately chose not to.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:54 am to Jon Ham
So the fight against Hitler (Socialist Fascism) or Hirohito (Racial/Religious Imperialism) was not justified because we might lose? There is always the potential to lose against a formidable enemy. Transnational Progressivism is very formidable, and likely to get it's 'One World Government' wherein we "will own nothing, but be happy". 
I suspect it'll fly for about 7 years, and then - turning on those it purports to serve (Universal Love) - go down in an unequaled crash.
Herding cats will never work. Only honest persuasion via Truth. What is one's ultimate Truth, I.e., Value? To each their own.
I suspect it'll fly for about 7 years, and then - turning on those it purports to serve (Universal Love) - go down in an unequaled crash. Herding cats will never work. Only honest persuasion via Truth. What is one's ultimate Truth, I.e., Value? To each their own.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:58 am to Jon Ham
quote:Take a hike, moron.
So why is he acting like he can win 2024 if it was so easy to steal it from him last time?
Idiot.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:04 am to Jon Ham
All the man had to do was stay off Twitter for like 3 months and he would have won.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:05 am to Jon Ham
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“it was stolen! rigged!” when in actuality Trump could have won but he didn’t do what it took, aka he simply lost.
The only path to victory in 2020 was for Trump’s team to break election laws and manufacture more votes than the dims did.
The 2020 election was not executed according to the laws in effect at the time of the election. Call it what you will - stolen/rigged/ etc but it was not a free and fair election.
You had judges changing laws - not ruling a law unconstitutional and then putting the burden back on the elected state officials to redo the law. Judges were actually looking at laws that had been on the books and changing how elections were run because of “Covid”.
No reasonable American saw that coming. That’s not a short coming of Trump and his team, unless you want to claim trusting Americas Juris prudence is foolish.
This is the first election it happened in such a wide manner as to effect the outcome so no one saw it coming.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:09 am to Jon Ham
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So democrats outplayed him in 2020? Otherwise known as he simply lost?
He didn’t just lose. He got his arse kicked. Lost the Senate in GA. Then lost 2022.
He’s looking at jail time while Biden is looking at a second term. That is one man owning another. Best he could do now for the sake of the country is get out of the race and support a better candidate. My choice would be CC.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:10 am to Motownsix
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My choice would be CC.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:10 am to Y.A. Tittle
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The REPUBLICAN PARTY should have done that
Trump specifically told his followers to vote in person on election day and not vote by mail. How could the party put together a vote harvesting operation if nobody voted by mail? That was almost as dumb as Kari Lake telling McCain voters she didn't want their vote. It's almost like they didn't want to win.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:11 am to Jon Ham
All they had to do was focus on flipping 5 cities in states that Trump won in 2016, Philly, Detroit, ATL, Milwaukee, & Phoenix. It was planned in advance & they rigged them all.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:14 am to westerntigerfan
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Trump specifically told his followers to vote in person on election day and not vote by mail. How could the party put together a vote harvesting operation if nobody voted by mail? That was almost as dumb as Kari Lake telling McCain voters she didn't want their vote. It's almost like they didn't want to win.
How would that preclude the Party taking similar initiatives to what the Democrats were doing?
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