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re: Governor Sarah got her School Choice bill - $7,500 per student vouchers for private.

Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:37 am to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 12:37 am to
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Finance

You’ve suggested a few times in this thread that there’s something endemic about education that makes it inefficient. I take that to mean something above and beyond the normal government inefficiency. What is it?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:03 am to
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You and most will receive far more in voucher money than anything you pay through the property tax portion dedicated to the schools.


And how is that any different than that same money going to a public school for my child?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:18 am to
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A means to Section 8 private schools. Hooray, another handout


That's exactly what this means. Comon TD. Quit down voting here. This is exactly what it is. Instead of fixing the public state schools, they do this.

This is about as left of a handout policy as I've ever seen and can't believe it's originating from "conservatives". Why would you agree to do this with taxpayer money? Where does 7500 per family come from?
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 4:24 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:22 am to
Fantastic.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:28 am to
Fantastic.
I'd guess privates will suddenly get more expensive. But at the very least, school choice among the publics will be helpful.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:24 am to
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Or has this board gone from conservative to populist to leftist?


Maybe they just don't like the idea of state tax dollars dolled out like this like it's food stamps?

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Trump


Get help
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
978 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:25 am to
IF they fund it, they control it. Sucks for the homeschoolers in the state.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:30 am to
Anyone have any better ideas? The public school system is not effective in "marginalized" areas.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
45810 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:30 am to
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Where does 7500 per family come from?


You realize that $7500 is already allocated to be spent for every child to receive an education, right? Currently, all of that money goes to public schools and you aren’t given a penny of that money if your child attends private schools.

With vouchers, the $7500 tax dollars allocated for educating your child can go to a public school or can be used to subsidize private tuition. It’s the same money; you’re just given more freedom as to where it’s spent.

As for those freaking out about private schools accepting public school students, those students still have to meet acceptance requirements and abide by the same requirements as all other students. It’s still a private school with its own standards. And those schools only have so many open spots available for additional students.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:32 am to
I'm moving to Arkansas!
Posted by TrueTiger
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81427 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:34 am to
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Instead of fixing the public state schools, they do this.


This is harnessing the power of competition to fix the schools.

All the other methods have been tried and failed because the teacher's unions stop them at every turn. This method bypasses the union obstacle.

You're welcome.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:41 am to
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This is harnessing the power of competition to fix the schools.


We shall see. I don't have high hopes when blood money is used. I'd rather see a 7500 reimbursement at tax time or something
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:52 am to
Iowa did something similar a few months ago.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
81427 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:53 am to
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We shall see.



Yep.

Nothing to lose at this point. Everything else we tried the past 40 years has failed.


Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7929 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:54 am to
I can see Catholic schools coming under the gun with a bunch of BS discrimination accusations. The Left will find every person that wasnt accepted for some of the normal criteria (not living in the Parish) and make it about race or gender.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:56 am to
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and make it about race or gender.



That's a big reason why schools are failing now.

They aren't teaching strategies for success.

They are teaching kids how to complain about their lot in life not being fair.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 6:02 am
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:06 am to
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"frick housing vouchers, they're just more government handouts that screw up decent neighborhoods. What? School vouchers? Yes sir, sign me up!!!"


As a lifelong giver and non-taker, I’ll gladly take the money already allocated for my kids, and apply it elsewhere for their education. My only public option is substandard, therefore I have to sacrifice dearly to send my kids 40 miles away to private school.
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5195 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:30 am to
Well now private schools will become even more expensive just like college did when the government got involved in student loans.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79237 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:44 am to
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And how is that any different than that same money going to a public school for my child?
You will be given more dollars worth in a voucher than you put in through your property taxes dedicated to education. That is a handout. You will then be given access, through other persons' tax contributions, to a product, private education, that you haven't earned or been willing to pay for previously.

Additionally, there is no way they will actually remove that $7500 per student from each school left behind by a student. The budget doesn't actually work like that.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79237 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:47 am to
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Where does 7500 per family come from
It's not per family. It's per student. If you have 3 kids you're getting a hand out of $22,500 per year.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 6:55 am
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