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re: Grassley says he won’t support the Save Act
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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May as well be Dems
Only in the Trump era can a Republican standing up for states rights be labeled "may as well be DEMs"
fricking bizarro world.
The Constitution clearly affords such authority to the federal government for federal elections.
States can run their state level elections however they wish and they would absolutely have a 10th Amendment basis to oppose any law interfering in that.
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:22 am to ChineseBandit58
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Perfect example of your absolute lack of integrity -
"Lack of integrity" is not the words you want to use for the guy who is maintaining his longstanding support of states rights and not flip flopping policy wise like AHEM some others ITT.
Unless you want to redefine what "integrity" means like MAGA is doing with other words.
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You are dedicated to the continued rape of our elections in the hellscapes where the population has been raped and being replaced by robotic creatures with no concept of liberty - other than to cheat the system.
What you are advocating = if going unchecked = will result in a righteous revolution.
There are legions of us that will not submit to a lifetime of taxation just to allow 3rd world savages to milk our taxes unchecked.
Ok, this is an even better encapsulation of the emotional thinking to ignore long-standign principles. You beat him.
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You are - or course - thinking that when that time comes YOU will be honored with a cushy position in the 'leadership' === you will be one of the first to be eliminated. The new "leadership" will need subjects who can produce stuff - they will have no use for a simpy contrarian - you will be worthless to them.
Uh, what? No I'll maintain my principles and support smaller government, especially at the federal level.
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The ONLY thing that matters to democrats these days is the protection of their sources of $$$ to purchase election fraud.
And you gladly support them unquestioned.
Have fun simp
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:23 am to hawgfaninc
Swamp’s too deep. Might could be fixed with elections that are on the up & up, but even then it’s doubtful because too many leeches with no skin in the game vote in this country. Trump has been a nice look at what we could be but the country is lost. Part of me says the sooner it burns, the better, then another part says keep fighting the good fight and stalling the inevitable.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 8:32 am
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:24 am to udtiger
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The Constitution clearly affords such authority to the federal government for federal elections.
There's all sorts of potential authority to erode States. Rights in the Constitution. Doesn't mean that I want to make leftist arguments to support them.
Because I actually believe the principles that I have supported for 20 plus years. I'm not going to let emotional arguments turn me into a hypocrite.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:25 am to LordSaintly
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Grassley is silent generation
Yes - I just look up what "gen -??" I was - since a whole lot of topics seem to think everyone knows that language.
Found we are of the "silent generation" = and Grassley is even a few years older than I. He seems to be in better physical shape than I am tho.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:30 am to hawgfaninc
Bought and paid for
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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maintaining his longstanding support of states rights
There is no more adamant supporter of state's rights than I.
But there is a higher moral standard than mere words.
I would not support a state that made it 'legal' to wantonly kill the people who do not vote the way the leadership wants.
We are witnessing in these 'blue' states absolute rape of their population in favor of luring more 3rd world problems. You know it - everyone knows it.
And the ONLY reason they can get away with it is by their 'state laws' that allow them to piss on the fundamental precepts of the constitution.
I have read your inputs over a period of time. Intellectually you are not stupid.
But you lend your intelligence to support stupid ideas.
You absolutely KNOW the elections have been subject to massive fraud for the past half century at least. Yet you smugly hide behind your facade of "no evidence" == which only means that those doing the 'stealing' are not interested in 'finding evidence.
So YES - I am in favor of making sure that CHEATERS can no longer hide behind their 'interpretation' of "what words mean."
Pick ANY historical figure of more than 100 years ago - and ask yourself if you think they would agree with you on the meaning of 'birthright citizenship' in light of the 20 years of the federal government not enforcing their own laws = and with some states taking advantage of that to pump up their census numbers and charging the FEDERAL taxpayer for the enormous extra cost.
You are not an honorable debater. Your interest is what you can 'get away with' using your interpretation of 'wording' while totally ignoring the MORAL certainties.
Unless you think it is moral to engage in fraudulent elections as long as you can get away with it.
and those stolen elections lead to a mountain of monetary frauds that is driving our nation toward bankruptcy.
You are unworthy.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:51 am to hawgfaninc
You’re elected from the STATE. You aren’t a nationally elected senator. Traitor idiot.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:57 am to Da #1 Stunna
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Because of fricking a-hole parasite politicians like Grassley, election reform, immigration reform, judge and attorney approvals, the filibuster bullshite, the blue slip, everything is stuck and the Republicans are the reason why. Congress is impeding the Trump agenda....... helping out their buddies in the media and the judges that are intent on stopping Trump at any cost.
Worthless motherfricks like things the way they are and don’t intend to change it.
How else can the GOPe be the opposition and fundraise if they win every election?
They don’t want to be in control and have to have Dems win so they can grift.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:58 am to hawgfaninc
What is he trying to do? Be the next Strom Thurmond?
He can hardly read off a paper he stumbles so much.
I hope both he and Joni are gone next term.
He can hardly read off a paper he stumbles so much.
I hope both he and Joni are gone next term.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:03 am to ChineseBandit58
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ChineseBandit58
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:17 am to ChineseBandit58
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There is no more adamant supporter of state's rights than I.
If this is true, you should oppose this clear intrusion into states rights.
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We are witnessing in these 'blue' states absolute rape of their population in favor of luring more 3rd world problems. You know it - everyone knows it.
And the ONLY reason they can get away with it is by their 'state laws' that allow them to piss on the fundamental precepts of the constitution.
I have read your inputs over a period of time. Intellectually you are not stupid.
But you lend your intelligence to support stupid ideas.
The "stupid ideas" you're attacking here include states rights.
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There is no more adamant supporter of state's rights than I.
You're arguing against yourself.
You're no defender of states rights. You just say the words when it benefits your perceived side/in-group.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:51 am to hawgfaninc
He's spoken out just this morning about supporting it.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:53 am to hawgfaninc
This is what happens when you fricking retards keep electing 90 year olds to congress.
This dinosaur frick should have been primaried 20 years ago.
This dinosaur frick should have been primaried 20 years ago.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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But how do you achieve that goal?
Federal law requires that states NOT demand proof of citizenship for registering to vote in federal elections. Add to this many states do not require voter ID and have ridiculously loose (fraud-enabling) rules for vote by mail.
I think we can agree that the system enables fraud. I think we can also agree that some states are champions of this fraud conducive system, and other states want it fixed.
How would you go about fixing this that doesn't include federal law?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:57 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:58 am to David_DJS
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How would you go about fixing this that doesn't include federal law?
It's up to the individual state.
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Federal law requires that states NOT demand proof of citizenship for registering to vote in federal elections.
Can you give a cite for this?
I know there was a ruling that the Executive could not do this unilaterally, but what you're saying is there is an active prohibition on this via Congress already, and I've never heard of that.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:03 am to hawgfaninc
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“I do not believe that Iowa and other states need politicians in Washington, D.C. dictating and controlling how states run their elections.”
“I do not believe that the states need honest, secure elections.”
Look, I understand that holding elections is a reserved power, but that’s just an excuse here for not doing the right thing. When we now have evidence of election shenanigans in several states, it’s irresponsible not to fix it. What is a republic without fair elections?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:10 am to VoxDawg
Good that Grassley clarified his stance.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're arguing against yourself.
no - you are arguing against common sense. Which is humorous for a while but tiresome when that is all you can muster your efforts here.
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You just say the words when it benefits your perceived side/in-group.
bullshite.
You are the one who wants to preserve the demomcrat' s penchant for cheating at elections.
I may remain silent rather than pile on to any topic - but what I say I mean - ask anyone who desires to fill me in on the facts that I have wrong.
I am not interested in participating in a verbal brawl over how many angels can really dance on the head of a pin.
I am interested in stopping the 20,000,000 illegal aliens from casting votes in critical times - you defend that as a "status rights' issue - it is actually a "States Felony" issue - and your insist that unless THEY decide to stop stealing elections, the federal government has no power to fix the problem.
You are wrong - but that doesn't surprise anyone here. You exist to muddy up actual discussion of important matters.
There are at least 10 states which have gone rogue in their abuse of the taxpaying public. And YOU say - 'it is their RIGHT to abuse the taxpayer"
Now - if that abuse only affects their STATE's taxpayer, I would not be as worked up over the issue as I am now.
What is bullshite is to defend their rigging of elections which impact the entire nation.
If they want stupid idiots in THEIR legislatures then have at it.
But they are sending robots to the US congress who have ZERO integrity with respect to what is good for the entire USA. They will stand by and oppose ANY attempt to rein in the abuses.
You are one of the latter. You enjoy the election fraud and other fraudulent waste of our taxes.
edit - and nowhere do I claim that REPUBLICANS are free of this abuse.
I support conservative issues - regardless of party affiliation. But lately that excludes all Democrats at the national level.
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 11:16 am
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