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Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:26 am to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11628 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 10:26 am to
In the world of healthcare wonkery, Singapore is actually really well-respected. Translatability to a much bigger country and of course all the path-dependent issues for translation makes it debatable how much anyone should care.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:05 am to
Singapore is literally just a city
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136724 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:11 am to
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and then the provider charges your insurance company more to cover the people who don’t have insurance.

This is 100% illegal.
Aside from semantics, no, that's the way the system works
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:12 am to
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People refusing to accept that only people with money deserve medical help

You see this is why you're basically just a child. There's a no moral component to it. I said nothing about the word deserve. But you're a child so that's what you hear
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:13 am to
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There are no polite words to express how disgusting, vile, and dishonest that little quip is.

I keep telling you people that she's a raging count
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:16 am to
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I can’t. Life saving care can not be compared to a new TV.

Morally? Correct. Emotionally? Correct

But economically they are entirely the same. Which is why there are no Solutions
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12515 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:19 am to
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Namely. The idea that every single person has a right to access whatever Healthcare they need. Oh I get it. It sounds callous to say that but suck it up emotional wrecks. It's reality


The party who runs on that is the party that will be ousted electorally or violently. Besides, it is in the state’s interest to have a healthy, fit populace.

frick them kids and grandparents isn’t a real platform. Your mind has been cuckolded by big pharma and health insurance.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:21 am to
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You see this is why you're basically just a child.


Nah, she’s just a woman. In her mind empathy is first and foremost the driving factor. There’s nothing wrong with having empathy but believing public policy should be based on empathetic values is always a losing proposition. It’s literally the road to hell paved with good intentions.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:24 am to
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Besides, it is in the state’s interest to have a healthy, fit populace.


Good idea. Stop paying poor people eat junk food and get fat as frick. Obesity is easily the biggest threat to a healthy and fit populace.

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frick them kids and grandparents isn’t a real platform. Your mind has been cuckolded by big pharma and health insurance.


God I can’t wait till this lame arse term goes away. Anyone who uses it is a fricking idiot and probably sucks dicks
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:28 am to
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I don’t know how these things are calculated but it seems that if most people don’t go over their would-be lifetime maximums, the calculated risk of someone doing so would be negligible anyway.


If I have 1,000,000 people on my plan who have lifetime maximums of 1,000,000, then my total risk is easily calculated.

Now remove the maximums.

You have an incalculable total risk. It can be priced in. But is at a premium versus the lifetime maximum provision.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:32 am to
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I used to be part of a committee that advocated on our behalf. Met with congressmen and all that…but nothing would change so I just said screw it I’d rather spend my free time with the family.


I did that for a few years with hospice benefits. It was eye opening. After meeting with my congresspersons from Missouri, and having seen the lobbying process I just said, “Eh. We’re fricked. Someone else can do this.”
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:34 am to
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What I’m saying is doctor X cannot overcharge patient Y because he had to take care of patient Z who has no insurance. Period.


But the system has figured in its cost of indigent care into their rate setting. If they didn’t, that would be reckless and irresponsible.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12515 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:35 am to
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God I can’t wait till this lame arse term goes away. Anyone who uses it is a fricking idiot and probably sucks dicks


Ah I didn’t know I was talking to the genius who has to swear for no reason and suggest the person they disagree with performs homosexual acts.

EXCUSE ME!

lmaooooooo
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:35 am to
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the ACA. And it is not actually government healthcare


Lololol.

Hilarious shite.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:37 am to
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Ah I didn’t know I was talking to the genius who has to swear for no reason and suggest the person they disagree with performs homosexual acts.


Well now you do
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:37 am to
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Ah I didn’t know I was talking to the genius who has to swear for no reason and suggest the person they disagree with performs homosexual acts.


You put “cuckholded” in your post and then complain about the niceties of etiquette? Sybau
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12515 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:40 am to
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You put “cuckholded” in your post and then complain about the niceties of etiquette? Sybau


That is my point. That poster just sniped in and wasn’t who I replied to…acted crude themselves but wanted to feign sanctimony. Calling them out, not policing etiquette.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28956 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Ask Natasha Richardson about "universal" access to care which was/is literally available anywhere in the US.

WhoopsiDooo!
You can't ask Natasha,
because she died awaiting access to care in the Canadian "Universal Healthcare" system.


A few years ago, I saw a statistic from a Canadian cancer advocacy group that said more people per capita are diagnosed with cancer every year in the US, but more people per capita die from cancer in Canada every year.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64247 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 12:58 pm to
Not even remotely comparable, definitely an extremely stupid comparison.


No illegal immigrants racking up thousands at emergency rooms


No fat Bertha whos just obese and lazy.

And no.Shaniqua or Consuela with ten kids and no baby daddy in sight.
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2107 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 1:01 pm to
Wife and I both have insurance, she carries the kids. Anytime we go anywhere and don’t receive what I think is the value of the bill, we just don’t pay it. It’s usually some specialist trying to get a few hundred dollars after insurance already paid out a couple thousand. There’s always more specialist. Screw em
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