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re: How do we know when elections are no longer tampered with?

Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14488 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:11 pm to
When the government and media gets pissed off.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:21 pm to
When there are no drop boxes. No mail ins. No adjudicating ballots 4 weeks after the election.

You can early vote in oerson. No excuse. They get their butts to the doctor and the wellfare office. They can find a way to the polls.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17139 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:26 pm to
When there is a forensic audit of paper ballots from the 2020 election conducted by Congress, followed by criminal prosecutions of anyone participating in it; followed by a nationwide ban on mail in ballots.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14532 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:34 pm to
Several things:
Voter ID in every state

Mail in ballots only for legit absentee ballots

No ballot harvesting with Dem operatives voting for elder people in nursing homes, etc.

No outside money associated with state elections. Example: Warnock getting massive influx of out of state funding leading up to the Georgia Senate race.

No foreign interest money contributions for National elections. Example: Democrats funded by tech companies like Apple Computer that are heavily invested in China, a well-known bad actor on the international stage.

Completely transparent elections. Example: no ballot dumps in the middle of the night like we saw in contested states in 2020 Presidential election.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127331 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:41 pm to
When you stop getting results that are statistically impossible would be an interesting start.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23087 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 5:43 pm to
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When only republicans win? When only democrats win? What are the criteria


Democrats win = Safest Most Secure Election Ever.

Republicans "win" = Stolen election!
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33807 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 6:31 pm to
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When only republicans win? When only democrats win? What are the criteria

Whent the iconic benchmarks are no longer shattered by outlier results. For instance:

* When states like Wisc, Mich, and Penn no longer have voter participation rates WELL ABOVE the national average (and of course Biden won over every one of those new voters)

* When bellwether counties and states can be used to actually gauge the mood of the country again (Trump won 18 of those 19 counties, and the bellwether state of Ohio, that has rarely been wrong in 150 years)

* When vote totals match the reality of every prior election (Biden gained more voter % over the previous winner, in recent history)
Biden was 30% better than Trump
Trump was 3% less than Obama
Obama was 10% less than his first term
Obama was 10% better than Bush
Bush was 20% better than his first term
Bush was 5% better than Clinton
Clinton was 5% better than his first term
Clinton was 5% less than Bush
Bush was 10% less than Reagan
Reagan was 25% better than his first term
Reagan was 8% better than Carter
Carter was 11% less than Nixon

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172179 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 6:35 pm to
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and every vote is a paper ballot that is hand counted

I think we've proven we aren't very good at counting. This sounds like an antiquated and dumb idea
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
81316 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:13 pm to
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When an ID is required to vote in every state.

When an ID is required to request a mail in ballot.

When observers of both sides are allowed unlimited access to the process.



Voter rolls need mandatory purges every 3 years.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20538 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:29 pm to
Voter IDs, paper ballots, end-to-end transparency, and when someone is caught cheating they're treated as traitors.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20538 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:30 pm to
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I think we've proven we aren't very good at counting


Speak for yourself.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 7:36 pm to
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Why are you so offended by my superior intellectual properties?


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Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3200 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 8:10 pm to
When the candidates you support win every time. Until then all loses are rigged.
Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3200 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 8:14 pm to
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When voters are required to show up in person, with a valid ID, at an authorized voting location t


1/2 my family couldn’t vote. Between active military, state department employee stationed oversees, a Dea agent also oversees, an international pilot, and a few surgeons who can’t leave the hospital when on duty a lot of my family can’t be where they vote on Election Day.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 8:15 pm to
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When only men can vote again

That was only property owning men then.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55070 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 8:28 pm to
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and every vote is a paper ballot that is hand counted I think we've proven we aren't very good at counting.

This sounds like an antiquated and dumb idea


They do it in France and other countries with great success and it’s generally completed within 24 hours
Posted by CC
Galveztown
Member since Feb 2004
15171 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 8:40 pm to
When Ruby Freeman’s head is displayed in the Capitol rotunda.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:32 pm to
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ballot dumps that are 100% for one candidate

Never happened in 2020.

LINK
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14941 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:35 pm to
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When you stop getting results that are statistically impossible would be an interesting start.

For example?
Posted by Joeybd
Member since Oct 2022
544 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:16 am to
When every 18 year old is registered, providing adequate ID for citizenship, and this registration is nationwide, then maybe. But our constitution leaves the mechanics of elections to each state.

So no, election integrity is kinda like the chicken or egg debate.
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