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re: How do we take it back without killing it
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:21 pm to Tigersonfire
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:21 pm to Tigersonfire
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How do we take it back without killing it
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FBI
You don’t. The FBI has been a stain on the liberty of this nation since its inception. The only way to “clean” the FBI is to get rid of it completely. Same with the CIA and every other unconstitutional alphabet soup agency. A federal police force is an affront to everything the founding of this nation was predicated upon.
Eta: didn’t read the rest of your post. But the point about the FBI et al still stands.
There probably isn’t a way to take it back to something resembling what the founders believed without killing it.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Sic semper tyrannis
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 9:26 pm
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:39 pm to Tigersonfire
you dont need war.
first define your goals.
when your goals are the goals of 55% of registered voters your goals will be implemented.
if you cannot win on the merits of your ideas
frick off.
first define your goals.
when your goals are the goals of 55% of registered voters your goals will be implemented.
if you cannot win on the merits of your ideas
frick off.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 6:32 am
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:41 pm to Adam Banks
In Lubbock texas
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:46 pm to Tigersonfire
How could you tell who the enemy was? I’ve wondered about if that ever happened here. No uniforms or different features ie Chinese, Japanese, Islamic jihadists.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:48 pm to Tigersonfire
are going to flush the patriot act?
women vote?
income tax?
only property owners vote?
no civil rights act?
figure out what you want.
one thing different.
end immigration and put up wall.
women vote?
income tax?
only property owners vote?
no civil rights act?
figure out what you want.
one thing different.
end immigration and put up wall.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:51 pm to Tigersonfire
Civil war is not the answer.
It has to be done at the state level. Republicans have to field politically center candidates in blue states and make their cities better. Focus on jobs, fiscal responsibility, eduction, homelessness, drugs, and crime.
Even if that means representing the will of the majority of your constituents and being ok with certain left issues like abortion. You have to concede on some issues in those places.
You take away their single-issue voters.
There are much bigger issues at stake.
It has to be done at the state level. Republicans have to field politically center candidates in blue states and make their cities better. Focus on jobs, fiscal responsibility, eduction, homelessness, drugs, and crime.
Even if that means representing the will of the majority of your constituents and being ok with certain left issues like abortion. You have to concede on some issues in those places.
You take away their single-issue voters.
There are much bigger issues at stake.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:55 pm to Tigersonfire
When Jesus Christ returns
Posted on 8/14/23 at 3:55 am to Adam Banks
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Trump plans on building them a new headquarters
You have posted this on every possible thread, no matter the subject, and it still doesnt make it true, bless your heart
Congress controls the budget not the president :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:10 am to Tigersonfire
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FBI This is a simply think tank post.
Well they don’t exactly care what it genuinely is, it’s now precedence for them to make it what they want it to be. So go ahead and get a bondsman and lawyer set up on your incoming seditious conspiracy charges coming your way.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 4:42 am to Tigersonfire
Stop donating money to either party.
Stop voting for incumbents.
We have less than 10 people in Congress that merit any consideration at all in 2024.
Get rid of incumbents and you'll see changes.
After that, stop supporting the big businesses that make incumbents so hard to beat and fund each party.
Then work to stop the division in society. You're never going get rid of the extremes, but that is a very small portion of the population. The #1 thing that federal politicians and the elites in society do, is divide us against each other. The more we are divided amongst ourselves, the less we are united against bad policy, corruption, etc.
Stop voting for incumbents.
We have less than 10 people in Congress that merit any consideration at all in 2024.
Get rid of incumbents and you'll see changes.
After that, stop supporting the big businesses that make incumbents so hard to beat and fund each party.
Then work to stop the division in society. You're never going get rid of the extremes, but that is a very small portion of the population. The #1 thing that federal politicians and the elites in society do, is divide us against each other. The more we are divided amongst ourselves, the less we are united against bad policy, corruption, etc.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:09 am to Tigersonfire
How do we have a civil war
Ain't nothing civil about war.
And the middle class America is at least a decade away from even being uncomfortable enough to even legitimately think about fight back.
Their will be much pain and suffering to come before people have had enough. History proves this. But rest assured, it is coming.
Ain't nothing civil about war.
And the middle class America is at least a decade away from even being uncomfortable enough to even legitimately think about fight back.
Their will be much pain and suffering to come before people have had enough. History proves this. But rest assured, it is coming.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:19 am to Joeybd
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Oh FFS, the deplorable defeatists on the PT echo chamber are crying again and making dystopian predictions.
This coming from the person who just last week said this
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It would go a long way if more people counted blessings, recognized the good things in their lives. Stop criticizing and judging others to your own beliefs and morals. Learn to live and let live.
There's nothing real about you son
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:29 am to BobBoucher
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Focus on jobs, fiscal responsibility, education, homelessness, drugs, and crime.
all ages job training too.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:33 am to davyjones
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FBI This is a simply think tank post.
Well they don’t exactly care what it genuinely is, it’s now precedence for them to make it what they want it to be. So go ahead and get a bondsman and lawyer set up on your incoming seditious conspiracy charges coming your way.
the charge would be either inciting insurrection or insurrection.
for those keeping score at home the j6 uproar has not only resulted in hundreds convicted and hundreds in prison waiting their turn in court, feds have identified 1,000 more who have not yet been notified that they too are on "candid camera".
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 6:42 am
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:42 am to Tigersonfire
Leftism and this wanna be new global order is already eating itself. Just get up, go to work, get active at the local and state level. Bill Gates was crying ,because not enough of the West fell in line to push their agenda. One of the other globalist goons was crying about how "right wing" media is responsible for lack of trust in NGOs and government institutions, EU halting DEI non sense, because it causing people to lose too much money, etc. You have business leaders, CEOs, bankers, and others starting to figure out that they are on the outside looking in and they won't have the life they do now. The WEF is about to get snuffed out and it will get messy ,but these guys blew their load with Covid and failed. They know it and others are starting to realize it. That being said stayed armed, stay prepared.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:58 am to Tigersonfire
There really isn’t a way out. Unless we can come up with a mutual separation and share resources (the military), essentially becoming a partnership. It would have to be an opt in/out at the state level.
The left has no interest in entertaining this. They want total control, they don’t plan on giving any up. They don’t plan on relegating power back to states either.
Besides, the fed is already “autonomous” and are making a United set of states less powerful. Imagine a fractured one.
Bottom line is that if both sides were agreeable, we could actually work something out. But, we aren’t, so it would be a fight against the side with the resources.
The left has no interest in entertaining this. They want total control, they don’t plan on giving any up. They don’t plan on relegating power back to states either.
Besides, the fed is already “autonomous” and are making a United set of states less powerful. Imagine a fractured one.
Bottom line is that if both sides were agreeable, we could actually work something out. But, we aren’t, so it would be a fight against the side with the resources.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:09 am to Joeybd
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Oh FFS, the deplorable defeatists on the PT echo chamber are crying again and making dystopian predictions.
Scream on.
Agree. People walking into stores, brandishing a weapon, grabbing a magnum trash can and raking everything within sight into it is normal. Store owners trying to stop the man, and being prosecuted for trying, is normal.
I could go on writing for three straight days.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:02 am to CelticDog
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are going to flush the patriot act? women vote? income tax? only property owners vote? no civil rights act? figure out what you want.
Patriot act needs to be reeled back on substantially. I think this is agreeable on all sides.
Women voting nice shiney hook.
Income tax ABSOLUTELY. Been proven time and time again by MATH an across the board sales tax system would make more lines and be a more fair.
Only property owners vote. Again nice shiney hook….I would however agree to a simple 5th grade level test to receive your voting license.
No civil rights. Wow the shiniest hook yet and sad you feel the need to throw it out. Civil rights is as a basic right as there is to man kind. But the definition of civil rights have been skewed and used by politicians on both sides to add laws and money grabs. Taken away not even close. Cleaned up absolutely and who can’t agree with that.
I want common sense and stealing to stop. Money votes rights the entire lot is being stolen.
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:05 am to Tigersonfire
Nice try Fed boy
Posted on 8/16/23 at 9:10 am to Tigersonfire
You can’t stop it. The US will fall. The people we placed in charge of the republic allowed greed to rule their actions. It’s human nature. The US is a very young nation compared to the rest of the world and it will be short lived relative to other civilizations.
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