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re: I'm currently talking to a girl who works for the FDA
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:24 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:24 am to RollTide1987
If there is one good thing that WILL COME out from many of the THOUSANDS of lawsuits around the country it's that the FDA approval WILL BE put on trial. Any lawyer worth a damn will be able to show that the entire POLITICIZED FDA approval of this poison was completely f*cking FRAUDULENT. And, since we all know that the MANDATE was premised on this FDA approval, the MANDATE itself was fraudulent.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 7:29 am
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:26 am to RollTide1987
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Everything about this pandemic, from the top down, has been political.
Anytime a scientific issue (or any issue for that matter) becomes politicized it loses its way. Same for climate change.
That said, I am vaccinated with Pfizer and I seem to be fine. If it ends up having any significant long term effects, there are plenty of lawyers who will make my kids rich. For now, it's keeping me out of the hospital. And yes I'm over 60.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:30 am to Auburn80
Is it? I have the vaccine, and I’m not spiking the football just yet. I actually think that’s kind of dumb with the new variants. You can’t let your guard down if you are at risk
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 7:35 am
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:34 am to Triple Bogey
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Operation Warp speed was Trump bro
It was, yes. Biden took that over when he got into office. This whole thing that Biden's hands are tied and he is stuck with deals from the previous administration, I mean, it is laughable to try and use that to defend Biden. Come on.
The funny thing about this is Biden, in a garbled mess, said one of his biggest concerns about operation warp speed was that the Trump administration would pressure the CDC and FDA to approve a vaccine that didn't go through proper protocols for approval, and here we are, his administration doing that very thing.
Here is Biden's quote if you are curious. And it is a perfect description of exactly what Biden has done.
"The way he (Trump) talks about the vaccine is not particularly rational. He’s talking about it being ready, he’s going to talk about moving it quicker than the scientists think it should be moved … . People don’t believe that he’s telling the truth, therefore they’re not at all certain they’re going to take the vaccine. And one more thing: If and when the vaccine comes, it’s not likely to go through all the tests that need to be done, and the trials that are needed to be done."
"Look at what’s happened. Enormous pressure put on the CDC not to put out the detailed guidelines. The enormous pressure being put on the FDA to say they’re going, that the following protocol will in fact reduce, it will have a giant impact on COVID. All these things turn out not to be true, and when a president continues to mislead and lie, when we finally do, God willing, get a vaccine, who’s going to take the shot? Who’s going to take the shot? You going to be the first one to say, ‘Put me — sign me up, they now say it’s OK’? I’m not being facetious."
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:34 am to Auburn80
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If it ends up having any significant long term effects, there are plenty of lawyers who will make my kids rich.
Uhhhh, no it won't.
First the manufactures had full legal immunity because of the EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) designation. BUT, they couldn't MANDATE it based on an EUA.
And, even though this drug cocktail IS NOT a vaccine as we have known vaccines for over 100 years, they needed to classify it as a vaccine so that the manufacturers would retain their COMPLETE IMMUNITY from liability under the law. As a vaccine, if you -- or millions of other people -- suffer any side effects, you will be placed in a government pool whereby all you will get is some money for your treatment.
There will be no money for your kids.
And, we all KNOW FOR A F*CKING FACT that these drug companies "trust" these drug so much that they would pull all of this f*cking experimental garbage from the market the SECOND that they lost full financial immunity.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:47 am to Triple Bogey
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Operation Warp speed was Trump bro
Are you just acting this stupid or are you really compromised on your intelligence?
Or is this just another crappy troll?
Either way, your ignorance is readily apparent in this thread. Good job.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:51 am to Hogwallop
Hogwallop
another board idiot. Shoot, my list keeps growing
While that is true, you idiot, who was president when the phizer approval was given. I'll give you a hint, its not Trump.
Emergency use and recommendations are fine. Speeding approval and forcing mandates...not so much. Idiot.
another board idiot. Shoot, my list keeps growing
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The vaccines were developed and rolled out under Trump, period. He encouraged vaccination after the release
While that is true, you idiot, who was president when the phizer approval was given. I'll give you a hint, its not Trump.
Emergency use and recommendations are fine. Speeding approval and forcing mandates...not so much. Idiot.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:52 am to RollTide1987
Go look at who runs the FDA; there wasn't a lot of "pressure"
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:56 am to RollTide1987
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I'm currently talking to a girl who works for the FDA
Tell her to get me my coffee, black with cream and to email me the notes from the meeting.
You're talking to a secretary or intern, and no one has time for your line of BS.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:57 am to dafif
Trump also tried to emphasize the importance of therapeutics. Remember hydrochloroquine, ivermectin, remdisivir, monoclonal antibodies? He wasn’t just pushing vaccines.
This administration COMPLETELY abandoned therapeutics, which would make Covid just another flu. These traitors dismissed everything but the vaccine and have put the entire country at risk.
This administration COMPLETELY abandoned therapeutics, which would make Covid just another flu. These traitors dismissed everything but the vaccine and have put the entire country at risk.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:03 am to Lou the Jew from LSU
Lou, we have an idiot downvoter that cannot provide a response so it just reeeees in the basement.
Made my morning.
Made my morning.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:06 am to dafif
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While that is true, you idiot, who was president when the phizer approval was given. I'll give you a hint, its not Trump
Poor attempt at deflection. Personal attack, you must know your position is weak.
quote:Emergency use of a rushed vaccine to counter a virus that has over 99% survival rate? I don't think that is fine, so we disagree.
Emergency use and recommendations are fine
quote:We agree on this, except for the personal attack portion.
Speeding approval and forcing mandates...not so much. Idiot.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:13 am to Hogwallop
It is a personal attack because you are ridiculously ignorant and it is apparent in this post as well.
Facts:
1. Trump asked the manufacturers to speed up a process to produce a "vaccine" to help with the covid crisis. They were given immunity. The cdc and fda fast tracked the 3 and the vaccines were give eua.
2. eua allowed all of us to make a choice which included Trump discussing other "therapeutics. Again, whether you agree or disagree with providing a vaccine to something with a 99% survival rate is irrelevant to this conversation. I'm sure there are any number of flu threads where you railed against a vaccine.
3. Again, biden administration gave full approval to a "vaccine" for the benefit of phizer.
To reiterate, your entire initial post was wrong regarding Trump. But you know that already, you just had to respond and "reeeeee"
Facts:
1. Trump asked the manufacturers to speed up a process to produce a "vaccine" to help with the covid crisis. They were given immunity. The cdc and fda fast tracked the 3 and the vaccines were give eua.
2. eua allowed all of us to make a choice which included Trump discussing other "therapeutics. Again, whether you agree or disagree with providing a vaccine to something with a 99% survival rate is irrelevant to this conversation. I'm sure there are any number of flu threads where you railed against a vaccine.
3. Again, biden administration gave full approval to a "vaccine" for the benefit of phizer.
To reiterate, your entire initial post was wrong regarding Trump. But you know that already, you just had to respond and "reeeeee"
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:15 am to Triple Bogey
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Operation Warp speed was Trump bro
We objectively know that the emergency approval was withheld for political reasons (to hurt Trump). It's apparent that the approval is now being hammered forward against existing protocols for political reasons (help current admin).
It's kind of amazing how willfully blind some people are.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:24 am to dafif
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Trump asked the manufacturers to speed up a process to produce a "vaccine" to help with the covid crisis. They were given immunity. The cdc and fda fast tracked the 3 and the vaccines were give eua.
Thats what I stated in my first post. It was rolled out under Trump
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eua allowed all of us to make a choice which included Trump discussing other "therapeutics. Again, whether you agree or disagree with providing a vaccine to something with a 99% survival rate is irrelevant to this conversation.
This also happened under Trump. Of course 99% is relevant. I'd have no issue with EUA if the virus was 70% survival
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Again, biden administration gave full approval to a "vaccine" for the benefit of phizer.
OK
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To reiterate, your entire initial post was wrong regarding Trump. But you know that already, you just had to respond and "reeeeee"
Nothing I said about Trump was wrong. You have not proved otherwise, you only gave excuses/reasons. You seem mad about that
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:28 am to Triple Bogey
quote:OWS under Trump was about development.
Operation Warp speed was Trump bro
He had nothing to do with circumventing protocols written in stone to approve a still experimental drug that isn't even a vaccine (well, it wasn't, until the CDC quietly changed their own definition of a "vaccine" just two days before Biden's unconstitutionally mandated EO).
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:31 am to RollTide1987
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She pretty much confirmed to me what I think we already knew. The executive branch of our government pressured the FDA to approve the Pfizer vaccine, going against all of their protocols and procedures for drug approval in the process. Everything about this pandemic, from the top down, has been political.
The science is in the phase 1, 2, 3 studies. The rest of it is a bureaucratic labyrinth that spends weeks or months making sure all of the semicolons in the footnotes are all in the proper place. Then med-legal gets it.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:33 am to Hogwallop
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The executive branch of our government pressured the FDA to approve the Pfizer vaccine
That is the OP
You replied
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Operation warp speed was Trump bro
That is an inaccurate response to the op and an effort to blame this on Trump
Your continuing to obfuscate is apparent to all here.
Authority/approval for the vaccine was given by Biden. Cannot argue against that
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 8:35 am
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:38 am to dafif
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That is the OP
You replied
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Operation warp speed was Trump bro
You're wrong again.
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Authority/approval for the vaccine was given by Biden. Cannot argue against that
FDA approval under Biden, I agreed with that statement already. EUA under Trump.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:45 am to RollTide1987
Hmmm, I seem to recall democrats specifically being against the POTUS pressuring the FDA to approve a vaccine….but I also remember virtually every democrat (I’m pretty sure even Biden said he wouldn’t) stating they would not get vaccinated
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