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re: Interesting stabilized shot of Pretti's death.

Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
4139 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:15 pm to
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wasn't a calm methodical arrest with an officer giving specific commands


Calm methodical arrest????? ICE/BPAs would LOVE calm methodical arrests.......

However, they're being accosted by dozens of paid hooligans -- some of which throw more than insults at them.

I love how "normal" people think they could've handled it differently --- much like the Kevin Bacon GIF from Animal House ---- "Stay calm, all is well!"

Put yourself in their shoes, in their situation and let me know how calm you would be!
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12306 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:17 pm to
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what about 8 shots? How about 2? Did he kill his mother if he fired 15? Was he the only one who fired? What if he fired one and the other 4 fired 2 each? Is that still panic?

Willfully ignorant.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35814 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:18 pm to
MN is not a duty to inform state but you must reveal that you have a firearm if asked by law enforcement. It will be interesting to know if the ICE agents asked about a weapon and what he said. It’s my understanding he didn’t have his permit or license on him which is a crime, albeit a misdemeanor.

It is recommended that you inform law enforcement of your concealed firearm. Likely to avoid situations just like this.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 3:19 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22400 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:20 pm to
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I’d imagine your feel for how many are terrible is off. I’d also imagine there wouldn’t be much at all to get into them for if they had proper backing from locals.

They've more than doubled the number of ICE agents in the last 12 months. The best run organizations would have difficulty maintaining training standards in those circumstances and we're talking about the federal gov't, which is a clown car as far as organizations are concerned.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471485 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:21 pm to
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It will be interesting to know if the ICE agents asked about a weapon

In what timeframe do you think they could have done this?

I can tell you right now they did not. We have video and audio of the incident and there wasn't enough time for them to even get that question out, really.

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It’s my understanding he didn’t have his permit or license on him which is a crime, albeit a misdemeanor.

Again, this isn't really relevant.

The agents shot either because they reacted to hearing "GUN" and freaked or b/c the gun in the LEO's possession accidentally discharged.

No time for any analysis as to his legal status of possessing that gun, nor to check his ID, existed.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:22 pm to
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wasn't a calm methodical arrest with an officer giving specific commands
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Calm methodical arrest????? ICE/BPAs would LOVE calm methodical arrests.......
I don't think there's such thing as a "calm, methodical arrest" on an armed and actively resisting offender.

Having said that, the first officer that shoved the shite out of grey hoodie-red backpack girl SHOULD have just ordered her down to arrest her and then tackled her instead of Chad Shoving her. If he had cause to shove her like that, he had cause for an arrest.

Would Pretti still have run (from behind, and armed) to 'rescue' her? Likely. It wouldn't have changed this outcome. But he should have initiated a detainment, not a shove.

And I still want to know why if Pretti was trying to 'rescue' her why did he drag her back into the fray not once but twice. He was trying to martyr her.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471485 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:23 pm to
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However, they're being accosted by dozens of paid hooligans -- some of which throw more than insults at them.


Did any of this exist post-shove?
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26616 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Their training has them assume he has another firearm.


This is not being stated enough. There are plenty of concealed carriers out there with more than one weapon on them. You don't relax when you find one gun and think he is safe at that point.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137026 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35814 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

what timeframe do you think they could have done this? I can tell you right now they did not. We have video and audio of the incident and there wasn't enough time for them to even get that question out, really.


Had he used recommended protocols he’d still be alive today. What we are seeing is the behaviors of a reckless and irresponsible person who contributed greatly if not fully yo their own demise.

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Again, this isn't really relevant.


See above.

He clearly has taken numerous steps to avoid disclosing the presence of his firearm.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:28 pm to
Are you Vince Dao?
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7845 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:30 pm to
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I think the part of disagreement from many people is the encounter should have never happened in the first place


You're right; Pretti never should have went LARPING with federal agents attempting to enforce the law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471485 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:30 pm to
That looks like his body reacts to the shot and the cell phone he had in his hand remained in his hand.

In the video prior to the shove, isn't his phone in his right hand?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:33 pm to
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The agents shot either because they reacted to hearing "GUN" and freaked or b/c the gun in the LEO's possession accidentally discharged.


"Freaked" interesting, completely neutral, assessment by our resident moderate "lawyer".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471485 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:34 pm to
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"Freaked" interesting, completely neutral, assessment by our resident moderate "lawyer".

An unarmed man was shot posing no threat. That's pretty fair.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22400 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:40 pm to
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An unarmed man was shot posing no threat. That's pretty fair.

Do you think the agent that did (or started) the shooting knew it was an unarmed man he was firing at?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27377 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:42 pm to
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An unarmed man was shot posing no threat. That's pretty fair.


Whether he posed a thread in reality or not is irrelevant to what a reasonable person would assume in that faction of a second given the scenario, which itself doesn't tell us the state of mind of the shooters.

You're assuming/reaching, and oddly you always do so in the same direction.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15534 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:44 pm to
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/alex-pretti-shooting-minneapolis-videos-witnesses-invs

Even CNN called him and the woman a protester.

They wouldn't get out of the street.

I hear lots of annoying whistles.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22400 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:49 pm to
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I get what you are saying but when DHS has now twice come out hours after a shooting involving thier agents and either intentionally or unintentionally communicated information that doesnt appear to be factual....It makes me think there is.a need for.the public to record and observe.....not obstruct but document

Nobody would be dead if all the "peaceful observers" did was stand to the side, away from ICE's work, and took video of what transpired.

Nobody takes issue with real "peaceful observation" but that ain't what's happening.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
45192 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:49 pm to
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It's exactly the same reasoning


Only by retards. The issues are 180 degrees polar opposite.

The BLM riots were not justified or legal. Stoked & paid for by Marxists

The ICE operations are legal and only necessary because of Leftist policies.

You’re spouting noise , not making a valid point.
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