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re: Is a Four-Year Degree Worth It?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:29 am to Narax
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:29 am to Narax
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Its out there. LINK The US Government publishes all the raw data.
I meant more institution specific data. ROI for a JD at Loyola vs Yale is probably quite dissimilar.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 7:30 am
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:32 am to NC_Tigah
Every medical field is being replaced by people with no degree, sometimes with a 2 year "associates" or the equivalent. This includes lab, rad, cnra's, .....well everything. And those replacements are making very close to what the degreed personnel make. It was the only way the government had to force lower IQ individuals into the medical field. And of course, it is affecting patient care. No one cares.
Bottom line, if your child wants to be in the medical field, research it thoroughly. Ask people that work in the field. Ask the older people. There are easier routes than a degree to make almost the same amount of money. And in the future I'm certain it will be as much.
Bottom line, if your child wants to be in the medical field, research it thoroughly. Ask people that work in the field. Ask the older people. There are easier routes than a degree to make almost the same amount of money. And in the future I'm certain it will be as much.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:34 am to NC_Tigah
Yes
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:35 am to lshuge
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Depends on the degree
This x 100.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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So like, an engineering degree. You strip away all the non-essential requirements for what would be a degree. So math, physics, engineering, etc. only. No English, foreign language, humanities, etc.
I believe I only had 8 non engineering classes across 6 years and 140+ credits between Associates and Bachlors.
And thats calling Philosophy and Logic non engineering but calling technical writing an engineering class (all 3 are very useful).
The others were 2 years of English, a History, an archeology, and a literature...
English probably also needs to stay, but I filled all of my electives with additional STEM classes, picking up more math, 3x Biology, additional software languages.
To your point, treating many degrees like an Institute of Technology treats Engineering should be an option.
Probably worth keeping the degree though, at least until employers catch up.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:40 am to Narax
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I believe I only had 8 non engineering classes
That's still what? A year of classes?
A lot of people would take that trade off to get out sooner and do less work they didn't feel was essential. This is a purely economic evaluation on this end. It's for the people who are just getting the paper to get a job in that field, who aren't necessarily worried about being educated or post-graduate options.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:41 am to The Torch
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He's making $17.00 an hour + monthly bonus so 40K a yea
I told my son that if I could do it over again I would have him get a job so he could make somewhere near that amount and he should live at home for 10 years and invest half of that for the 10 years.
He can leave home at 28 and be retired by 50
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's for the people who are just getting the paper to get a job in that field, who aren't necessarily worried about being educated
Learning enough to become a PE isn't being educated?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:43 am to onmymedicalgrind
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I meant more institution specific data. ROI for a JD at Loyola vs Yale is probably quite dissimilar.
Unfortunately no one has done the college by college every degree, as I suspect that the sample rate is low for many.
But its there in the data, that article pulls some of the by college by degree numbers.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:43 am to Flats
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Learning enough to become a PE isn't being educated?
Yep. If you stay to take the 8 easy electives then you can have a real “education”.
SFP is a fricking tool and a half.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:44 am to onmymedicalgrind
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I meant more institution specific data. ROI for a JD at Loyola vs Yale is probably quite dissimilar.
The government could cap student loan amounts correlated to the degree program pursued.
Social work? You’re going to be making $40k-$45k out of college. So your maximum student loan amount is xxx.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:45 am to Flats
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Learning enough to become a PE isn't being educated?
It means you're certified for the PE job path.
Being "educated" is about more than just a singular focus, though. This concept goes back to at least Classical Greece, but I imagine you'd find it all across the developed Bronze Age.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:45 am to SoCal Cal
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a nation full of baristas with 100k in student debt.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:45 am to NC_Tigah
It depends on what you value. I believe a degree has a lot of intrinsic value, as well as financial ones. For me, yes.
If you’re solely looking at the financial ROI, it may not hold the same value to you.
If you’re solely looking at the financial ROI, it may not hold the same value to you.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:45 am to onmymedicalgrind
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ROI for a JD at Loyola
I still don't understand how there is one, overall at least.
But that's a pet project
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:47 am to touchdownjeebus
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It depends on what you value. I believe a degree has a lot of intrinsic value, as well as financial ones. For me, yes.
If you’re solely looking at the financial ROI, it may not hold the same value to you.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:47 am to texag7
You’re frothing at the mouth about nothing.
You do realize that those extra required classes are in large part the result of internal lobbying in the university, right?
You think a student is better prepared for a career by taking Drawing or Music Theory or the History of Paganism and Christianity?
You do realize that those extra required classes are in large part the result of internal lobbying in the university, right?
You think a student is better prepared for a career by taking Drawing or Music Theory or the History of Paganism and Christianity?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:48 am to jeffsdad
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Every medical field is being replaced by people with no degree, sometimes with a 2 year "associates" or the equivalent. This includes lab, rad, cnra's, .....well everything. And those replacements are making very close to what the degreed personnel make. It was the only way the government had to force lower IQ individuals into the medical field. And of course, it is affecting patient care. No one cares.
Oh we care. Unfortunately physicians aren’t great at organizing and advocating. Not like nurses, who of course have alot more free time….
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Bottom line, if your child wants to be in the medical field, research it thoroughly. Ask people that work in the field. Ask the older people. There are easier routes than a degree to make almost the same amount of money. And in the future I'm certain it will be as much.
The hack in medicine right now is being a CRNA. Hopefully the market corrects on that sooner rather than later.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Being "educated" is about more than just a singular focus, though. This concept goes back to at least Classical Greece, but I imagine you'd find it all across the developed Bronze Age.
Taking a handful of electives nobody remembers a year later does not make someone more “educated”.
You sound like a complete idiot.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:50 am to the808bass
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You think a student is better prepared for a career by taking Drawing or Music Theory or the History of Paganism and Christianity?
That is not my argument at all. Re read my posts.
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