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Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:54 am to
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25899 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:54 am to
I honestly believe that the difference maker in getting Trump re-elected and breaking the stranglehold of the entrenched and corrupt was Musk buying Twitter.

Not just what it did for that platform. Also for exposing the government pressure shenanigans and greasing the skids for other tech titans to red-pill (to varying degrees).

The problem in Europe is that they already have well-established legal curbs to speech. Here, you can expose the issue and hold it up to 1A. There is no 1A in Europe.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
22052 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 5:35 am to
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mean for kicking Romney to the curb, it is clear that it had to happen. The US is the only Western nation to have a truly right wing government currently.

Yeah because Biden, the IC and US DOS took down all the non globalist nations and were desperately working on Russia using Ukraine as a leverage point.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36722 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:13 am to
I think you misread French elections and politics. If you think LePen is conservative or nationalist by US or even British metrics you are very mistaken. LePen is right wing in the sense that Labour in Britain has traditionally had a few "sane" policies.

The French elections were over Macron basically telling the far left that they could not have all of the goodies they wanted. So instead of a family pack of Oreos they are getting the next size down. Le Pen does not care about the Oreos , she might even want the next size down or maybe the family size. It's that it hurts Macron's governing coalition on the Assembly .

National Front is socialist lite by our standards. The only true right wing position that they have is on immigration and there is very little difference between her and Macron on the issue.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101554 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:25 am to
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The US is the only Western nation to have a truly right wing government currently.


Argentina
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1656 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:28 am to
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associates who appear to have somewhat distorted views of


We all have to look at every narrative now through the lens of knowing it was in part produced as US pro-globalist propaganda. Everything is distorted to favor those that want to politically align and is malign those that look to some bit of nationalism
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5986 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:06 am to
Milei is great, so is Bukele in El Salvador. I don’t consider LATAM to be Western culturally
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14988 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:14 am to
All European far right wing parties are to the left of Democrats on most issues.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5089 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:25 am to
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The US is the only Western nation to have a truly right wing government currently


Argentina is kicking arse with a right wing president. Check it out. He's doing an amazing job. Completely turned that country around.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2144 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:25 am to
This is semantics - but interesting imo.
I think from a European perspective the current Administration is right-wing solely because the Administration is "nationalist." That is what "right-wing" means to Europeans. They have spent the entire post WW2 era pushing the idea of integration as a way to achieve peace and prosperity as a way of leaving behind the nationalist ideas that plunged them into war in the first half of last century.

But from an American perspective i do not think the current Administration is rightly described as "right wing." Many things Trump and a some others say and push are things the Left was behind a generation or two ago - or at least the pre-Clinton Left. Reciprocal trade deals and tariffs, U.S. treasure staying at home as opposed to nation building, limitations on U.S. police power, dismantling/major reform of intelligence, etc. are a few elements that liberals were largely behind.
Some of those have roots in American conservatism for sure - it just seems odd to me to call them right wing today, but like I say - it is just semantics.


Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34953 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:31 am to
I don't believe Milei is far-right. Maybe he is considered that because of how the whole left-right scale has been bastardized, but he is the only libertarian head of state in the world.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 8:39 am to
According to Benz. USAID, CISA, NED, etc are responsible for overthrowing every populist/nationalist movement around the globe since 2017.

Now that those groups are temporarily neutered it will be interesting to see what happens in EU and S America the next 5 years.

With an even playing field will we see the woke mind virus exterminated?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:48 am to

Rhinos have to go
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19444 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:51 am to
Both are disgraces and we should pay them no attention.

Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3128 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:23 am to
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being pro-Russia


Once Europe falls to the Muslims, which will happen within the decade, WE will align with Russia as well.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83914 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:26 am to
Yes plus there is no First or Second Amendment in European countries
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